A special treat
Andrei Alexandrescu
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Tue Feb 9 09:42:46 PST 2010
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:53:47 -0500, Steve Teale
> <steve.teale at britseyeview.com> wrote:
>
>> When D2 is 'frozen', as a special treat would it be possible for it to be
>> able to generate object files that could be converted into shared
>> libraries, and for Phobos to be a shared library to support same.
>>
>> I have tried every which way I can think of to create shared libraries
>> using D. The closest I have come is with the old 1.030 GDC, and even with
>> that there are problems. I've tried to describe the current situation in
>> some detail on the blog section of my <a href="http://
>> www.britseyeview.com/GDC-newbie.html">GDC-newbie page</a>. It is too long
>> to post on the newsgroup.
>>
>> The inability to do this is a real show-stopper for D on Linux, and
>> unless things have got better since I last tried, the same can be said
>> for Windows DLLs.
>>
>> Please!
>
> Many (including myself) have expressed the real requirement for shared
> libraries. Sometimes the response is "oh who needs shared libraries
> anyways, there is so much memory in todays computers" and the other
> response is that "Windows DLLs suck, so we can't do it".
>
> I agree it needs to be figured out before D is considered a viable
> professional language. I don't think it's impossible, but someone just
> needs to spend the time.
>
> Another new problem to pile on to Windows DLLs is the new requirement
> for default thread local storage. See this bug that is very unlikely to
> get fixed (by Microsoft):
>
> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3342
>
> So the tradeoff is, either use crappy TLS (using a function to look up
> global variables) or only support Windows Vista and later. If Windows 7
> hadn't come out, I'd say requiring Vista is about as bad as not having
> DLLs :)
>
> -Steve
A lot of Phobos consists of templates, which would be difficult to put
in a shared library.
Andrei
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