disabling unary "-" for unsigned types

retard re at tard.com.invalid
Sun Feb 14 18:52:35 PST 2010


Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:36:59 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

> bearophile wrote:
>> - And finally in D2 there are several new features that are sometimes
>> only half-implemented, and generally no one has tried them in long
>> programs, they seem to come from just the mind of few (intelligent)
>> people, they don't seem battle-tested at all. Such new features are a
>> dangerous bet, they can hide many traps and problems. Finalizing the D2
>> language before people have actually tried to use such features in some
>> larger programs looks dangerous. Recently I have understood that this
>> is why Simon Peyton-Jones said "Avoid success at all costs" regarding
>> Haskell, that he has slowly developed for about 15 years: to give the
>> language the time to be tuned, to remove warts, to improve it before
>> people start to use it for rear and it needs to be frozen (today we are
>> probably in a phase when Haskell has to be frozen, because there is
>> enough software written in it that you can't lightly break backward
>> compatibility).
> 
> The response of the Haskell community seems to be "avoid avoiding
> success". Anyway, either slogan shouldn't be taken out of context, and I
> don't think the situations of the two languages are easily comparable.
> For example, a few years ago monads weren't around. At that point, a
> different I/O method was considered "it" for functional programs (I
> swear I know which, but I forgot).

There's not much choice here. Probably explicit state passing with a 
state variable? People also invented other methods, but monads provided 
an useful abstraction for other kind of use as well.



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