why a part of D community do not want go to D2 ?

Jacob Carlborg doob at me.com
Wed Nov 10 02:56:18 PST 2010


On 2010-11-10 00:00, Walter Bright wrote:
> Tobias Pfaff wrote:
>> 1. Bitter fighting about a possible non-nullable type for D3(!).
>> Discussion style: "Noone will take away my right to write unsafe code
>> !" vs. "Down with the reckless cowboy coders". Are we discussing guns
>> or coding here?
>> That, and purposedly overhearing the other's real point.
>
> I don't know that it's bitter, "spirited" might be a better term. I like
> spirited discussions.
>
>
>> 2. Tango vs. Phobos. Wow. I really really wished we were over that by
>> now. It's been like two years since I last looked in here, and still
>> the same thing.
>>
>> So, while I like the language and will probably stick around here
>> anyway, it might me a good thing to avoid this experience for other
>> people interested in D peeking into the newsgroup. Also, with (2), I
>> don't really get the point here. Whatever exactly happend between the
>> tango/phobos fraction -- the best thing to do to get everyone on board
>> again is probably to just to make phobos2 a library everyone enjoys to
>> use. And avoid starting discussions on who did what wrong over and over.
>> And while still lacking a few of the high-level features of Tango
>> (higher level network, streaming, etc.) it feels like the direction is
>> right.
>
> I agree. The reasons for the Tango split long ago, whatever the merit of
> those reasons was, have long since passed. Producing another
> incompatible split with D2 will not be of an advantage to anyone, and
> will just give people reasons not to use D at all.
>
> Jacob has recently decided to help out with improvements to druntime; I
> take that as a very welcome sign towards ending the differences.

I don't want to increase any separation in the D community and would 
hope peoeple could agree more. I have no problems what so ever 
contributing both to Tango and Phobos/druntime. And I'm happy to license 
any of my code to whatever license would be need for a give D project.

>> With all that been said, I'm looking forward to using D for a while,
>> after fighting the C++ template code monster for the last years.
>
> Great!

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg


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