why a part of D community do not want go to D2 ?

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2010-11-10 12:43, retard wrote:
> Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:56:18 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>> On 2010-11-10 00:00, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> I agree. The reasons for the Tango split long ago, whatever the merit
>>> of those reasons was, have long since passed. Producing another
>>> incompatible split with D2 will not be of an advantage to anyone, and
>>> will just give people reasons not to use D at all.
>>>
>>> Jacob has recently decided to help out with improvements to druntime; I
>>> take that as a very welcome sign towards ending the differences.
>>
>> I don't want to increase any separation in the D community and would
>> hope peoeple could agree more. I have no problems what so ever
>> contributing both to Tango and Phobos/druntime. And I'm happy to license
>> any of my code to whatever license would be need for a give D project.
>
> A dual licensing scheme for all code might help a bit (since both parties
> refuse to switch licensing). There are also
>
>   - stylistic issues (OOP style structured Tango vs quick'n'dirty Phobos
> API) ->  this causes annoying technical incompatibilities
>
>   - psychological issues (Tango's charismatic leaders vs dull politically
> correct office persons and almost anynomous lone coders porting Boost
> code written in other languages). I believe strong personalities like Jon
> Harrop and Paul Graham actually have an overall positive effect. It's not
> a big secret that Andrei has boosted D's adoption quite a bit - this has
> more to do with the strong personality than technical issues.
>
>   - project management issues (Tango uses trac heavily and the leaders
> have modern project management skills, Phobos developers have developed a
> new inefficient ad-hoc software process model without the big picture
> 'planning' phase and without any communication between the team and the
> product owner)
>
>   - platform issues (not everyone agrees D2 is a perfect upgrade route -
> how is this even surprising? Look at the number of people *not* using D,
> it shouldn't be a surprise that there are people who dislike D2, but like
> D1)
>
>   - an axe fight between some key persons. I believe this can be solved if
> there weren't those other annoying problems.
>
> These are all my subjective opinions. Feel free to throw the first rock,
> after all I'm just a stupid troll.
>
> For me the technical issues have the greatest priority. If I want a full
> flexible Java style stream I/O interface and these kind of things, there's
> no way in hell I'll let you shove the Phobos style ideology down my
> throat. I'd have to create a "PhoTango" wrapper to actually use these.
>
> The political issues aren't that interesting. If I'm coding in Java or
> C#, I don't even know the names of the stdlib developers. Maybe Doug Lea.
> But he left Oracle for political reasons..

I basically agree with all this.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg