About Andrei's interview, part 3 (on bearophile)

Bruno Medeiros brunodomedeiros+spam at com.gmail
Wed Oct 6 08:51:11 PDT 2010


On 05/10/2010 16:58, Denis Koroskin wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:30:59 +0400, Bruno Medeiros
> <brunodomedeiros+spam at com.gmail> wrote:
>
>> On 27/08/2010 03:01, Gareth Charnock wrote:
>>> On 26/08/10 07:57, Don wrote:
>>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>>> bearophile wrote:
>>>>>> This is why I don't like a lot the current work done for the 64 bit
>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of groups cannot consider D unless it supports 64 bit
>>>>> compilation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> D2 has some design problems (I don't call them 'enhancement
>>>>>> requests') that if you want to fix may require to break backward
>>>>>> compatibility (they are things that can't just be added to the D2
>>>>>> language),
>>>>>> few months ago I have listed about ten of them here (and I think
>>>>>> Walter did
>>>>>> just ignore them),
>>>>>
>>>>> 71 bugzilla issues were resolved just in the last update. I don't
>>>>> think it's quite fair to characterize the ongoing development as
>>>>> ignoring the community. You list several things *per day*. I doubt any
>>>>> organization could keep up with the sheer volume of your output <g>.
>>>>> I'm not suggesting that you stop doing it, quite the contrary. I just
>>>>> hope you can be realistic about how much can be done about them in the
>>>>> short term.
>>>>
>>>> Since February, 30% of bugzilla entries are from bearophile!
>>>> It's really impressive.
>>>
>>> I kind of started thinking of Bearophile as the conscience of the
>>> newsgroup a while back ;-) Always sitting on your shoulder pointing out
>>> how things should be better or could be fixed. He really is a tireless
>>> user advocate!
>>>
>>> As for the current directly, I think the most critical matter is
>>> bugfixes, bugfixes, bugfixes, which is why I was pleased to see that
>>> last changelog. It's disheartening to run headlong into a language bug
>>> every time I code something in D2.
>>
>> I don't know about the rest of people here in the NG, but actually I
>> would hope bearophile would post much less often, especially when its
>> him creating a new thread. And that's simply because he posts way too
>> often, with lots of detail, and it takes a lot of time to read up on
>> all that content, and to think about it with some depth.
>> My default behavior with threads created by bearophile is just to skim
>> or skip them over altogether. And it has nothing to do with quality of
>> what bearophile says, because actually I think he often makes good
>> points and brings good insights... but there are just *way* too many
>> of them :P (not to mention the huge stream of links to articles on
>> other sites that often accompany bearophile's posts)
>>
>> So yeah, bearophile, that's my plea. :-o Some of us like to sleep the
>> recommended number of hours...
>>
>
> No way! Just don't read his posts if you are not interested.

Like I said, I already do that, not so because of lack of interest, but 
lack of time. If all one cares is learning, discussion, and intellectual 
discovery, then its not a problem, but please understand that most 
people here want to do productive work (ie, coding), and only dedicate a 
small portion of their time to reading posts and articles. Otherwise 
you'll get little done.

You may not care if that's my case, but do realize that Walter is in a 
very similar position. (and likely Andrei as well, to a lesser extent)
I won't speak in their name, I don't know if they read all of 
bearophile's posts in detail and with thoughtful consideration or not, 
or if they would prefer more or less posts of that nature (or not care 
at all).
I can only speak for me, but (even though I admit my time-management 
skills are less than average) I would suspect their stance is not too 
different.

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer


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