Netbeans vs. Eclipse (was: Re: Complete D grammar)

[Steven Schveighoffer]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:40:22 -0400, Bruno Medeiros  
<brunodomedeiros+spam at com.gmail> wrote:

> On 04/04/2011 20:19, Aleksandar Ružičić wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Steven Schveighoffer
>> <schveiguy at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>> >  On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:51:02 -0400, Aleksandar Ružičić
>>> >  <ruzicic.aleksandar at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >>  On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Bruno Medeiros
>>>> >>  <brunodomedeiros+spam at com.gmail>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>  BTW, I wanna thank for this work (current and upcoming), it is  
>>>>> likely
>>>>> >>>  useful
>>>>> >>>  for other IDE projects as well ;)
>>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  Ditto.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  I have started work on D language support for NetBeans (IMHO it's  
>>>> MUCH
>>>> >>  better editor than Eclipse) and started to write grammar for  
>>>> javaCC,
>>>> >>  but since there is ongoing work on ANTLR parser I'll wait for  
>>>> that to
>>>> >>  be done and integrate it into plugin I'm working on. :)
>>> >
>>> >  I would absolutely love NetBeans support for D.
>>> >
>>> >  -Steve
>>> >
>
> On my side I'm surprised NetBeans hasn't faded into obscurity, but I  
> haven't tried it for a long, long time, so this isn't really an informed  
> opinion.
>
> So why is NetBeans much better editor than Eclipse? (I'm not just  
> looking for a discussion, I'm curious about these issues as it might be  
> something that can be taken into consideration for DDT development)
>

I don't use eclipse.  I use netbeans.  For me, it's installing a  
additional language support vs. installing another IDE.  Otherwise, I'd be  
neutral on the subject.

I'm not a huge IDE guy, I just have netbeans installed because they  
support PHP w/ server-side debugging. But I've gotten used to netbeans and  
their editor.  So I would probably feel more comfortable with a netbeans  
version of D than an eclipse version.

As for "why is it better"? I have no clue, I don't use eclipse.  (I  
realize this wasn't addressed at me, but I thought I'd just state my  
opinion or lack thereof)

Don't know if eclipse has this or not, but probably the coolest feature in  
netbeans' editor is the ability to highlight a block of text and "move" it  
around using the keyboard (shift-alt-arrow) and copy it using the keyboard  
(shift-ctrl-arrow).  I find myself trying to do this with other editors  
all the time now.

My biggest pet-peeve with netbeans is when I want to change a value to a  
string literal, I highlight what I want to change, then type a quote to  
start typing the literal, the freaking thing instead just puts quotes  
around the highlighted text (which means I now have to re-highlight the  
text and press delete first).  I've never once *used* this feature, but it  
gets in my way all the time (anyone know how to disable that?).

-Steve