string is rarely useful as a function argument

Andrei Alexandrescu SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org
Wed Dec 28 11:00:52 PST 2011


On 12/28/11 12:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 10:35 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
>> On 28/12/11 6:15 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> If such a change is made, then people will use const string when they
>>> mean immutable, and the values underneath are not guaranteed to be
>>> consistent.
>>
>> Then people should learn what const and immutable mean!
>>
>> I don't think it's fair to dismiss my suggestion on the grounds that
>> people
>> don't understand the language.
>
> People do what is convenient, and as endless experience shows, doing the
> right thing should be easier than doing the wrong thing. If you present
> people with a choice:
>
> #1: string s;
> #2: immutable(char)[] s;
>
> sure as the sun rises, they will type the former, and it will be subtly
> incorrect if string is const(char)[].
>
> Telling people they should know better and pick #2 instead is a strategy
> that never works very well - not for programming, nor any other endeavor.

Oh, one more thing - one good thing that could come out of this thread 
is abolition (through however slow a deprecation path) of s.length and 
s[i] for narrow strings. Requiring s.rep.length instead of s.length and 
s.rep[i] instead of s[i] would improve the quality of narrow strings 
tremendously. Also, s.rep[i] should return ubyte/ushort, not char/wchar. 
Then, people would access the decoding routines on the needed occasions, 
or would consciously use the representation.

Yum.


Andrei


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