tooling quality and some random rant

[Lutger Blijdestijn]

retard wrote:

> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:10:47 +0100, Lutger Blijdestijn wrote:
> 
>> retard wrote:
>> 
>>> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 04:44:43 +0200, so wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately DMC is always out of the question because the
>>>>> performance is 10-20 (years) behind competition, fast compilation
>>>>> won't help it.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you please give a few links on this?
>>> 
>>> What kind of proof you need then? Just take some existing piece of code
>>> with high performance requirements and compile it with dmc. You lose.
>>> 
>>> http://biolpc22.york.ac.uk/wx/wxhatch/wxMSW_Compiler_choice.html
>>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.c++.perfometer/37
>>> http://lists.boost.org/boost-testing/2005/06/1520.php
>>> http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/c++/chat/66.html
>>> http://www.drdobbs.com/cpp/184405450
>>> 
>>> 
>> That is ridiculous, have you even bothered to read your own links? In
>> some of them dmc wins, others the differences are minimal and for all of
>> them dmc is king in compilation times.
> 
> DMC doesn't clearly win in any of the tests and these are merely some
> naive examples I found by doing 5 minutes of googling. Seriously, take a
> closer look - the gcc version is over 5 years old. Nobody even bothers
> doing dmc benchmarks anymore, dmc is so out of the league. I repeat, this
> was about performance of the generated binaries, not compile times.
> 
> Like I said: take some existing piece of code with high performance
> requirements and compile it with dmc. You lose. I honestly don't get what
> I need to prove here. Since you have no clue, presumably you aren't even
> using dmc and won't be considering it.

You go on ranting about dmc as if it is dwarfed by other compilers (which it 
might very well be), then provide 'proof' that doesn't prove this at all and 
now I must be convinced that it's because the other compilers are so old? 
You lose. You don't have to prove anything, but when you do, don't do it 
with dubious and inconclusive benchmarks. That's all.