tooling quality and some random rant

Bruno Medeiros brunodomedeiros+spam at com.gmail
Wed Feb 23 05:54:03 PST 2011


On 14/02/2011 12:37, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2011-02-13 16:07, Gary Whatmore wrote:
>> Paulo Pinto Wrote:
>>
>>> "Nick Sabalausky"<a at a.a> wrote in message
>>> news:ij7v76$1q4t$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>>> ... (cutted) ...
>>>>
>>>> That's not the compiler, that's the linker. I don't know what linker
>>>> DMD
>>>> uses on OSX, but on Windows it uses OPTLINK which is written in
>>>> hand-optimized Asm so it's really hard to change. But Walter's been
>>>> converting it to C (and maybe then to D once that's done) bit-by-bit
>>>> (so
>>>> to speak), so linker improvements are at least on the horizon.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Why C and not directly D?
>>>
>>> It is really bad adversting for D to know that when its creator came
>>> around
>>> to
>>> rewrite the linker, Walter decided to use C instead of D.
>>
>> I'm guessing that Walter feels more familiar and comfortable
>> developing C/C++ instead of D. He's the creator of D, but has written
>> very small amounts of D and probably cannot write idiomatic D very
>> fluently. Another issue is the immature toolchain.
>>
>> This might sound like blasphemy, but I believe the skills and
>> knowledge for developing large scale applications in language XYZ
>> cannot be extrapolated from small code snippets or from experience
>> with projects in other languages. You just need to eat your own
>> dogfood and get your feet wet by doing.
>>
>> People like the Tango's 'kris' and this 'h3r3tic' are the real world D
>> experts. Sadly they've all left D. We need a new generation of
>> experts, because these old guys ranting about every issue are more
>> harmful than good to the community.
>
> Kris is still around.
>

Out of curiosity, what do you mean "still around". Still working with D?

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Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer


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