VLERange: a range in between BidirectionalRange and RandomAccessRange

Andrei Alexandrescu SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org
Tue Jan 11 14:52:33 PST 2011


On 1/11/11 11:13 AM, Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2011-01-11 11:36:54 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu
> <SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org> said:
>
>> On 1/11/11 4:41 AM, Michel Fortin wrote:
>>> For instance, say we have a conversion range taking a Unicode string and
>>> converting it to ISO Latin 1. The best (lossy) conversion for "œ" is
>>> "oe" (one chararacter to two characters), in this case 'front' could
>>> simply return "oe" (two characters) in one iteration, with stepSize
>>> being the size of the "œ" code point. In the same conversion process,
>>> encountering "e" followed by a combining "´" would return pre-combined
>>> character "é" (two characters to one character).
>>
>> In the design as I thought of it, the effective length of one logical
>> element is one or more representation units. My understanding is that
>> you are referring to a fractional number of representation units for
>> one logical element.
>
> Your understanding is correct.
>
> I think both cases (one becomes many & many becomes one) are important
> and must be supported. Your proposal only deal with the many-becomes-one
> case.

I disagree. When I suggested this design I was worried of 
over-abstracting. Now this looks like abstracting for stuff that hasn't 
even been addressed concretely yet.

Besides, using bit as an encoding unit sounds like an acceptable 
approach for anything fractional.

> I proposed returning arrays so we can deal with the one-becomes-many
> case ("œ" becoming "oe"). Another idea would be to introduce "substeps".
> When checking for the next character, in addition to determining its
> step length you could also determine the number of substeps in it. "œ"
> would have two substeps, "o" and "e", and when there is no longer any
> substep you move to the next step.
>
> All this said, I think this should stay an implementation detail as this
> would allow a variety of strategies. Also, keeping this an
> implementation detail means that your proposed 'stepSize' and
> 'backstepSize' need to be an implementation detail too (because they
> won't make sense for the one-to-many case). So they can't really be part
> of a standard VLE interface.

If you don't have at least stepSize that tells you how large the stride 
is to get to the next element, it becomes impossible to move within the 
range using integral indexes.

> As far as I know, all we really need to expose to algorithms is whether
> a range has elements of variable length, because this has an impact on
> your indexing capabilities. The rest seems unnecessary to me, or am I
> missing some use cases?

I think you could say that you don't really need stepSize because you 
can compute it as follows:

auto r1 = r;
r1.popFront();
size_t stepSize = r.length - r1.length;

This is tenuous, inefficient, and impossible if the support range 
doesn't support length (I realize that variable-length encodings work 
over other ranges than random access, but then again this may be an 
overgeneralization).


Andrei


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