Article discussing Go, could well be D

Nick Sabalausky a at a.a
Wed Jun 8 23:36:29 PDT 2011


"Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes at gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ispnrd$1rc$10 at digitalmars.com...
> Am 09.06.2011 07:43, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
>> "Robert Clipsham" <robert at octarineparrot.com> wrote in message
>> news:isovbb$20ea$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>> On 08/06/2011 22:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>>> "Walter Bright"<newshound2 at digitalmars.com>  wrote in message
>>>> news:isopmf$1lov$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>>>> On 6/8/2011 1:12 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>>>>> But yea, maybe I will go ahead and just do it...
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's important that you do.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, well, I'm trying, but this time I can't even get the "register" 
>>>> link
>>>> to
>>>> work at all.  I turn on JS, reload, it sits there "loading" for about
>>>> three
>>>> minutes (as opposed to a few seconds without JS), and after all that,
>>>> clicking the "register" link still doesn't do anything at all.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, how completely incompetent do they have to be to screw up
>>>> something as incredibly basic as a link? Bunch of morons over there.
>>>>
>>>> Meh, maybe when someone makes a reddit alternative that actually 
>>>> fucking
>>>> works I'll use it...
>>>
>>> To be fair, they probably don't test in Firefox 2 any more, given that
>>> there have been numerous releases since and it's now unsupported.
>>>
>>
>> 1. It's a link for fuck's sake. It doesn't take IE9/Opera11/FF4 for a
>> trivial damn <a href="...">...</a> to work properly. The fucking things 
>> have
>> worked *exactly the same* since Mosaic (save for the "frame" extensions 
>> that
>> nobody should ever use anyway). There *is no* cross-browser testing 
>> needed
>> to get it right. There's barely any *thinking* needed to get it right. I
>> could teach my sister to get it right.
>>
>> 2. If Mozilla ever decides to put out a successor to FF2 that isn't shit,
>> and actually *does* follow the "customizability" that they constantly
>> *pretend* to have, then I'll happily upgrade.
>>
>> Besides, every time I come across some self-important asshole of a site 
>> that
>> feels it's their duty to try to tell me what fucking browser I should be
>> using, it makes me want to stick with FF2 that much more. They're so 
>> anxious
>> to cram half-assed under-engineered so-called-"technologies" down my 
>> throat?
>> Well then fuck them. I'd go back to FF1 if I thought doing so would give
>> them a hard time. (At least it looks nicer out-of-the-box without having 
>> to
>> install winestripe.)
>>
>> It's not my fault everyone insists on making their software worse with 
>> each
>> release.
>>
>
> I thought you were switching to Arora?
> FF2 is not just outdated and incompatible with some websites, it's not
> maintained anymore (since 2008 I think) and most probably contains known
> (and actively exploited) security holes (some of them may even work with
> JS disabled).
>

Meh, "In the process of", really. Which is unfortunate. I often use Arora 
for GitHub and BitBucket (I really don't like BitBucket though, GitHub and 
Gitorious are much better even though I'm an Hg guy, but now I'm digressing 
even more...)

But Arora is still really lacking in some things, for instance, *really* bad 
handling of SSL certs that aren't 100% perfect (such as self-signed ones, 
which prevents me from using it for a lot of dev work on my local machine). 
And even though it's WebKit, which I thought was supposed to be really fast, 
it's actually just about as slow to load a page as FF2. Surprisingly slow. 
And I've come across a number of missing settings that, well, that I really 
miss.

It's by far the most promising-looking browser out there (Hell, it's the 
only one still around with a UI that doesn't completely look like ass - 
first it was music players and disc authoring that all turned fisher-price, 
and now browsers, too, especially Chrome: my god what were they thinking on 
that horrid mess? Damn thing manages to make WinAmp look good). But there's 
a lot of contributions I'd want to make to Arora before I'd want to 
completely switch from FF2. Of course, that's easier said than done since 1. 
I'm spread way too thin already, and 2. It's C++ instead of something nice 
and modern like D (which probably has something to do with the occasional 
crashes I get with Arora).





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