Flag proposal [OT]

Alix Pexton alix.DOT.pexton at gmail.DOT.com
Mon Jun 13 02:03:44 PDT 2011


On 13/06/2011 02:31, Paul D. Anderson wrote:
> Alix Pexton Wrote:
>
>> On 12/06/2011 16:11, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:36:55 -0400, Alix Pexton
>>> <alix.DOT.pexton at gmail.dot.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
>>>>> <andrej.mitrovich at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton<alix.DOT.pexton at gmail.dot.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>>>>>>>> We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
>>>>>>> actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
>>>>>>> "Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
>>>>>>> for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
>>>>>> bad, it really is "Aye". :p
>>>>>
>>>>> You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay
>>>>>
>>>>> My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
>>>>> and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P
>>>>>
>>>>> So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>
>>>> Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round
>>>> here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and
>>>> "the ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you
>>>> speak, we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^
>>>
>>> I don't deny that aye is used frequently for voting. All I was saying
>>> is, the correct expression is yea or nay, not yay or nay. Andrej thought
>>> it was actually aye or nay, which I've never heard as an expression.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure it's used anymore, but it's definitely an expression that
>>> was used for voting (see my dictionary reference).
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>
>> True, "yea-or-nay" is quite a common, if old fashioned phrase, but "yea"
>> on its own is exceptionally rare (to the point where I doubt ever
>> hearing anyone make such a noise and mean it to indicate the affirmative).
>>
>> A...
>
> Then you must not have heard the King James Version of the Bible read aloud, or been to a Shakespeare play.
>
> Admittedly the KJV and Shakespeare's works don't count as modern English, but I doubt you've never "heard such a noise"!  :-)
>
> p.s. The word appears 209 times in Shakespeare's plays. There's a website for everything!
>

Aye, I did mean people using their own words and not someone else's. for 
such a prolific writer, 209 doesn't seem like a lot, and I can't help 
wondering how many times the bard used "aye".

Mind you, he was a southerner!

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