what to do with postblit on the heap?
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin at michelf.com
Mon Jun 20 13:45:44 PDT 2011
On 2011-06-20 10:34:14 -0400, "Steven Schveighoffer"
<schveiguy at yahoo.com> said:
> I have submitted a fix for bug 5272,
> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5272 "Postblit not called
> on copying due to array append"
>
> However, I am starting to realize that one of the major reasons for
> postblit is to match it with an equivalent dtor.
>
> This works well when the struct is on the stack -- the posblit for
> instance increments a reference counter, then the dtor decrements the
> ref counter.
>
> But when the data is on the heap, the destructor is *not* called. So
> what happens to any ref-counted data that is on the heap? It's never
> decremented. Currently though, it might still work, because postblit
> isn't called when the data is on the heap! So no increment, no
> decrement.
>
> I think this is an artificial "success". However, if the pull request
> I initiated is accepted, then postblit *will* be called on heap
> allocation, for instance if you append data. This will further
> highlight the fact that the destructor is not being called.
>
> So is it worth adding calls to postblit, knowing that the complement
> destructor is not going to be called? I can see in some cases where it
> would be expected, and I can see other cases where it will be
> difficult to deal with. IMO, the difficult cases are already broken
> anyways, but it just seems like they are not.
>
> The other part of this puzzle that is missing is array assignment, for
> example a[] = b[] does not call postblits. I cannot fix this because
> _d_arraycopy does not give me the typeinfo.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts? I'm mixed as to whether this patch
> should be accepted without more comprehensive GC/compiler reform. I
> feel its a step in the right direction, but that it will upset the
> balance in a few places (particularly ref-counting).
My feeling is that array appending and array assignment should be
considered a compiler issue first and foremost. The compiler needs to
be fixed, and once that's done the runtime will need to be updated
anyway to match the changes in the compiler. Your proposed fix for
array assignment is a good start for when the compiler will provide the
necessary info to the runtime, but applying it at this time will just
fix some cases by breaking a few others: net improvement zero.
As for the issue that destructors aren't called for arrays on the heap,
it's a serious problem. But it's also a separate problem that concerns
purely the runtime, as far as I am aware of. Is there someone working
on it?
--
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin at michelf.com
http://michelf.com/
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