Archetype language

KennyTM~ kennytm at gmail.com
Sun Mar 20 17:43:46 PDT 2011


On Mar 21, 11 07:41, bearophile wrote:
> KennyTM~:
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>> And this change makes integers look like they are iterable,
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> That's not so good, I agree :-)
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>> This makes 'if' looks like a template :p.
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> I agree, that may cause troubles in D. Not good.
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>> Yeah this was tried once and becomes a mess in detail :)
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> I remember part of the discussion, and I think it's a not so messy situation. I think it's doable.
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>> So how Archetype deals with 0 and 1-tuple?
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> I don't know, I presume as Python. In that discussion I said to Walter than the 1-tuple cause problems in Python. In the meantime I have changed my mind a bit: 1-tuple syntax in Python is not great, but it's much better than not having tuple syntax :-)
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I agree.

>> 'yield' is gogreatod.
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> I have no idea what 'gogreatod' means, sorry :-)
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An attempt to replace 'good' with 'great' which failed ;)

>> This could be a library type (as proposed before?)
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> Right.
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>> the problem is to let the compiler knows the value-range in the propagation.
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> Right...
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>> Yes. Maybe the Python/Javascript 1.7-like syntax
>>       a = (f(x,y,z) foreach(x,y; it) if(cond(x,y)) foreach(z; it2) ...)
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> Yes please.
> Plus the eager version too that produces an array:
> [f(x,y,z) foreach(x,y; it) if(cond(x,y)) foreach(z; it2) ...]
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>> Since this is an O(N) operation I don't see any reason an operator-based
>> syntax will be allowed, given 'in' is rejected for this reason.
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> I don't agree. "in" was refused for the linear search because elsewhere the D "in" is known to be O(1). But D operators are generally allowed to perform O(n) operations too, think about the "a[]-10" vector operation.
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Though they have a [] to signify it's a vectorized operation. I mean 
bare operation like 'a - 1'. (Also, using '-' makes it confusable with 
'a[] - 1', the reason why '~' was created instead of overloading '+')

>> Hundreds could be>>  100 :)
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> Noam Chomsky is a genius and you must listen to him even when he's drunk :-)
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> Bye,
> bearophile



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