Just starting out

[Kai Meyer]

On 10/13/2011 01:37 AM, J Arrizza wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies. Seems straightforward enough:
>
> 1) Phobos is it.
> 2) DMD is the clear winner
> 3) Eclipse is a hog - knew that. I really only like a couple of things
> in it. A big one for me is the source formatting. For some reason,
> having to hit the space bar 4,000 times every hour just isn't my cup of
> tea.
>
> The formatter for java set a nice high standard for configurability that
> I was hoping a D plug-in would also have. I had issues with installing
> descent on Linux (worked ok in windows for some reason), but I'll give
> it another shot on Indigo. If that doesn't play, I'll stick with
> UltraEdit (great editor, got a life-time license for it).
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Jacob Carlborg <doob at me.com
> <mailto:doob at me.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 2011-10-13 01:43, J Arrizza wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I'm just starting out in D, read the book, tried a Hello World, and
>         wrote a few unit tests. I'm ready for the next step.
>
>         I'd like to begin writing some more complex D code which I want
>         to use
>         not only as a test bed to investigate D itself to a deeper level
>         but if
>         it's successful to eventually use it as the beginnings of a
>         toolkit for
>         our internal use.
>
>         I'm looking for some recommendations from folks with lots of
>         experience
>         in D:
>
>         1) Which to use: Phobos, Tango, or Tangobos? It makes sense for
>         us to
>         use D2 so this seems to preclude Tango for now. Correct?
>
>
>     Most people will definitely say D2 and Phobos. I still think Tango
>     is better and for the time being that means D1. I also think that
>     some parts of D2 is not quite ready yet.
>
>
>         Are there plans to merge or standardize on one of these? Phobos and
>         Tango seem to be incompatible with each other at this point.
>
>
>     Yes, Tango and Phobos are incompatible. There are someone/a couple
>     of people working on porting Tango to D2. I think that port will use
>     druntime, meaning it will be compatible with Phobos.
>
>         My worry here is if we choose the wrong underlying library we end up
>         having to re-write a lot of code later on.
>
>         2) Which compiler? DMD, GDC or something else?  We use Ubuntu
>         10.04, 64
>         bit as our development platform. I'm assuming the gc is in all the D
>         compilers.
>
>
>     DMD is a good compiler for development. It's the fastest available D
>     compiler (as far as I know). It's always up to date, LDC and GDC can
>     be a release behind DMD. I don't know what's best for production. I
>     usually hear people saying that LDC and GDC is better than DMD but I
>     haven't done any benchmarking myself.
>
>
>         3) DDT (eclipse plugin) seems relatively green. Any other
>         suggestions
>         for an IDE. Not a big deal for us, but it's nice to have source
>         formatting. The DDT folks indicated that that feature is a long
>         way off
>         for them.
>
>
>     There's an older plugin for Eclipse called Descent. It has source
>     formatting and a couple of more nice and interesting features, like
>     compile time debugging. I also shows both syntax and semantic errors
>     (semantic errors are disable by default). I still uses this plugin
>     but I can be quite slow and unfortunate it's not maintained anymore.
>     I still recommend you take a look at it.
>
>     http://dsource.org/projects/__descent
>     <http://dsource.org/projects/descent>
>
>     Otherwise I use TextMate on Mac OS X. There's also a similar
>     application called E (text editor) available on Windows (in the
>     works for Linux too). It's compatible with TextMate's bundles.
>
>         Thanks,
>         John
>
>
>
>     --
>     /Jacob Carlborg
>
>
>
>
> --
> John
> blog: http://arrizza.blogspot.com/
> web: http://www.arrizza.com/

VIM + gnu make has done everything I've needed it to do so far, but the 
biggest project I've done so far was only ~10k lines long.