DMD - Windows

Danni Coy danni.coy at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 16:28:16 PST 2012


>
> Not to get too far off topic, I'm the only one where I work who will use
> C#. I think some people simply hate Microsoft the company so much that they
> would not even fire up C# and try it once. They won't be caught liking it.
> And that's seems to be the case where I work as far as I can tell. Maybe D
> would be more well received than C# by such people if it integrated better
> with VS, I don't know. But there is always the issue with less widely used
> languages: if I write our company's main product in D, and if we then need
> to hire more people, I need to tell my boss we need to hire people that
> know D (or are at least willing and able pick it up) which are not as
> common. If anything at all goes wrong with D that wouldn't have gone wrong
> had we used C++, it's on me. No one ever got fired for buying IBM, lol.
> Sorry, I know we need to battle past that but I can't help mentioning it.
>

Not so much hate Microsoft as cautious of using platforms that contain a
lot of Microsoft IP. The thing about Microsoft is that it isn't really one
monolithic company and while the divisions of the company that do C# and
.net are probably totally cool there are other parts of of the company who
wouldn't hesitate to leverage that IP against anything they perceive to be
a competitive threat. Even if they don't C# being a VM based language there
is a lot of Oracle IP to deal with (Microsoft currently pay Oracle a metric
f*cktonne of money per year to use that IP and I am not sure where
alternate .Net implementations stand in this regards). See Microsoft v
Google and Oracle v Google. This probably won't be an issue if you are
heavily microsoft centric in what you are doing anyways just not sure how
much I trust it as a cross platform solution in the long term.

Ideally D would allow you to write code that is in the same ballpark
performance wise as C/C++ but with much greater programmer productivity. I
don't think it's quite there yet. I think that IDE intergration including V
S is part of that, in fact I think it is something of a low hanging fruit.
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