All right, all right! Interim decision regarding qualified Object methods

Peter Alexander peter.alexander.au at gmail.com
Fri Jul 13 05:06:12 PDT 2012


On Thursday, 12 July 2012 at 04:15:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
> 2. C++ has very, very successfully avoided the necessity of 
> planting polymorphic comparisons in base classes by use of 
> templates. The issue is template code bloat. My impression from 
> being in touch with the C++ community for a long time is that 
> virtually nobody even talks about code bloat anymore. For 
> whatever combination of industry and market forces, it's just 
> not an issue anymore.

What C++ community are you in touch with? Boost?...

Code bloat is still a big issue in C++, especially in embedded 
software for obvious reasons.

It's also a big issue outside of the embedded world because more 
code bloat causes more I$ misses, which causes performance 
problems. Performance is always an issue, and considering that 
D's key advantage over the scripting languages is performance, 
this has to be a serious consideration. Additionally, more code 
equates with longer compile times, which again is one of D's 
supposed selling points.

Ironically, I remember you saying a while back that compile times 
where a big problem at Facebook. Guess what's causing that?

Perhaps not so many people complain directly about code bloat any 
more, but they do complain about performance, they do complain 
about compile times, they do complain about the size of Phobos 
libs, and they do complain about startup times -- these things 
are all attributable at least in part to code bloat.

FWIW: I agree with the proposal, but let's leave the 
code-size-doesn't-matter attitude behind.


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