Arbitrary abbreviations in phobos considered ridiculous

[deadalnix]

Le 09/03/2012 11:58, Jonathan M Davis a écrit :
>> This is not alias. This is about accepting template parameters. The
>> actual isn't very consistent anyway (seconds, but usecs ?).
>
> It amounts to the same thing, and core.time and std.datetime are as consistent
> as they're going to get. seconds are _always_ seconds, and _no_ units greater
> than seconds are ever abbreviated. Only the sub-second units are abbreviated.
> And they're abbreviated only because they would have been way too long
> otherwise. And making seconds secs would create even _more_ inconsistencies.
> Just read the discusion in the pull request:
>
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/173
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

Yes, this is consistent in this regards. What isn't consistent is to 
choose to not abbreviate seconds, hours, minutes, but to abbreviate 
nsecs, usecs.

Considering the existing codebase, I think the best option now is to 
allow both. In an ideal worlds, I would argue that we go for all 
abbreviation or none.

I did read, the topic. Interesting, but I think walter isn't consistent 
with its own argumentation on point 6. Consider that in french, « dur » 
means « hard ». Even associated with keyword like dlang, this is 100% 
ungooglable. He is also plain wrong on point 5. No progress is made for 
experienced D programmers (arghuably, it is a step backward for such 
people), but for newcomers it is. At some point, we will have to 
consider newcomers as an important subject.

I do agree with most other points, this is not good to have 2 names for 
the same thing. However, the actual names are confusing, it seems that 
this thread make it pretty much clear. A lot of people have trouble with 
dur and seconds. Now, instead of changing everything that exists, lets 
make secs available. This isn't perfect, but it is the consequence of 
the inconsistency of naming convention that occurs (between sub seconds 
units and other units) in a first place, not the ideal case.