A little Py Vs C++

[Dejan Lekic]

On Friday, 2 November 2012 at 08:38:21 UTC, Don Clugston wrote:
> On 02/11/12 09:07, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> On 2012-11-01 23:51, Walter Bright wrote:
>>
>>> What about all your feature requests? I think you've made 
>>> more than
>>> anyone, by a factor of 10 at least!
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> As for Manu's request
>>>
>>> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8108
>>>
>>> I've gone over with him why he needs it, and there's no other 
>>> reasonable
>>> way. He needs it for real code in a real application.
>>
>> This is quite interesting. Manu comes in from basically 
>> nowhere and
>> fairly quickly manage to convince Walter to implement at least 
>> two
>> feature requests, this one and the SIMD support. I'm not 
>> saying that
>> they shouldn't have been implemented.
>
> He just knows how to convince Walter.
> (Hint: use real-world use cases. Arguments from theoretical 
> computer science carry almost no weight with Walter).
>
> > Although I think something like
>> AST macros could possible solve issue 8108 and a whole bunch 
>> of other
>> features, a few already present in the language.
>
> Yes, and they could cure cancer. "AST macros" can do anything, 
> because they are completely undefined. Without even a vague 
> proposal, it seems like a rather meaningless term.

How do you think people came up with those bug reports? By some 
magic? :) You think they did not actually *pull their hair off* 
trying to figure out why their REAL LIFE program does not work, 
and when we could not find the reason we naturally started 
thinking "oh, it might be yet another missing thing in D" or "oh, 
yet another DMD/phobos/druntime bug!"...
Or, another scenario (a very typical one) - after 
DMD/phobos/druntime is updated, my production application no 
longer compiles...