D vs C++11

[Paulo Pinto]

On Saturday, 3 November 2012 at 07:35:26 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:
> On 11/3/2012 12:19 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> On Friday, 2 November 2012 at 23:08:00 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
>> 
>> What I have learned in all my years of enterprise development 
>> is that all those features have zero value for business.
>> 
>> Languages get adopted because of business value, not due to 
>> the coolness of their feature set, how boring it may sell.
>> 
>> If we want to sell D to companies using C++ for years, slowly 
>> migrating to JVM, .NET worlds, or just updating their
>> codebases to C++11, then we need to sell D's business value 
>> not feature lists.
>> 
>> --
>> Paulo
>
> In my experience (which admittedly is limited to several 
> companies that are all technology companies, which introduces
> an specific bias) it's the engineers which ultimately define 
> the languages used.  Eventually after enough people want to
> use <foo>, it gets used.  It has little to do with business 
> value or rational logic and more to do with determination
> and momentum.

Of course each of us works in very different eco-systems.

In my case it is enterprise world of Fortune 500 companies, new 
technologies only get introduced in two forms:

- customer requires technology X (e.g. Objective-C for iApps, EC2 
for deployments, ...)

- company can earn big money if it sells consulting support with 
technology X

--
Paulo