D vs C++11

[Kiith-Sa]

On Saturday, 3 November 2012 at 12:46:18 UTC, Erèbe wrote:
>> To be fair though, asking "C++ vs D" on a D newsgroup is 
>> clearly going
>> to be tilted more towards the D end ;) But yea, personally, I 
>> feel that
>> C++11 is merely playing "catch up", and doing so on a broken 
>> leg.
>
> I didn't expect that much of response to my question, but it 
> was my intent to see the point of view of the community even if 
> I know it is biased.
>
>
> All of you name a lot of missing features in C++11, while I 
> completely agree upon that makes D cool, don't you fear a 
> turtle effect if D only focus on features ?
> I explain myself, C++ is a well supported language and come 
> with a lot of tools which could help/improve your 
> developpement. In the decision of taking D xor C++, developper 
> could think "Hey I already know C++ and how to work with it 
> (aka tools), let just stick with it and wait for the new C++11 
> features coming for free". In that situation, C++11's no effort 
> (or little to learn new additions) seem more rewarding than 
> learning D, so why try ?
>
> Is there a point in the D roadmap where we will see "Okay, D 
> has enough features, let add some support to the language now" 
> ? Because in my opinion D is for now just a language, a awesome 
> one yes, but not yet a good environnement for developper.
>
> C(++) had man (K in vim) and gdb, pascal his own ide, dynamic 
> languages have their interpreters, Java eclipse, what has D ?
>
> Nearly no support in vim (my editor of choice), a Plugin for 
> eclipse wich force you to stick with an older version, a Visual 
> studio plugin where you need to buy a liscence in order to have 
> the IDE. The only viable choice for me is the plugin for 
> monodevelop which is really great but no debugger (assert is 
> enough for now).
>
> Support should not be a top priority for the D-core now that 
> the language is well featured ? Something coherent with what 
> already exist (dmd) ?


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