[OT] Engine braking

[Jeff Nowakowski]

On 08/01/2013 09:24 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>
> The article is a year old, not that ancient.It's far from the only
> one on the topic. Google "prius status symbol".

That's why I wondered how old the cars were. You don't buy cars like
groceries. If the same stat was true in 5-10 years I'd be surprised.

> Even South Park famously did an episode on it.

Yes, in 2006! The market has changed a lot since then, from many more 
hybrid models to choose from, to all-electric vehicles. If you want to 
flaunt wealth and eco-smugness, get a Tesla.

> So the prius is more cost effective because you drive it less?

It's about an apples-to-apples comparison. There's a lot of upfront cost
to creating a car. If you drove it for a year and trashed it your
environmental numbers would look horrible. Alternatively, you
could put a lot more miles on the Prius if you wanted to. The Prius has
taxis with over 200,000 miles on them.

And that was just one point of contention. You don't seem very
interested in looking critically at this report, instead going for Glenn
Beck level analysis.

> The Hummer is the poster boy for polluting Americans, and the Prius
> the poster boy for enlightened environmental consciousness. The
> truth is a lot harder to get at than that.
>
> What does work is, of course, orienting your life so you drive less.
> Like living closer to work, combining errands into one trip,
> carpooling, biking, using Amazon instead of going to the mall, etc.

So here you are advocating to drive less, unlike the 379,000 mile
Hummer. Make up your mind.