Flame bait: D vs. Rust vs. Go Benchmarking

Nick Sabalausky SeeWebsiteToContactMe at semitwist.com
Thu Jul 25 21:57:58 PDT 2013


On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 05:37:41 +0200
"SomeDude" <lovelydear at mailmetrash.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 26 July 2013 at 01:48:36 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 01:14:42 +0200
> 
> > Not to slam Rust or the Rust people, but I wouldn't call that 
> > an example
> > of "class" so much as "new age nazi": where everything is
> > incontrovertibly wonderful in it's own special way and any 
> > opinion
> > contrary to that is categorically invalid and not to be 
> > tolerated (or
> > must, at least, be first run through a rose-tinted castration 
> > filter).
> >
> > Referring to those two quotations as "throw[ing] random 
> > slander" is
> > outright hyperbole and very much an overreaction. I'm *very* 
> > glad that
> > we've been mature enough here to allow real, frank discussion 
> > and not
> > descend into the self-righteous, almost Orwellian, whitewash 
> > trap of
> > "happy...or else".
> 
> "new age nazi", "castration filter", "almost orwellian"... talk 
> about overreaction.
> 
> I think the intent of the moderator is to keep the level of 
> discussions high,and have some  not to rose-tint them. I expect 
> the main leaders of the D community to keep the same high 
> standards, not only on the m-l, but also on other forums and 
> bulletin boards, like reddit or HN. After all, it's important to 
> show that we all keep an open mind.

The terms I used are admittedly exaggerated in their strength, but
they're the most accurate way I can think of to describe the basic
points I was trying to get across.

There's nothing wrong with what the moderator said, per se. The problem
is that it came in direct response to these exact quotes:

> "You think Linux is not well-engineered?"
>
> Nope .. its the same piece of 1970s crap that all the other popular OS
> use , with trivial differences people make a bit deal about..
[...]
> Go and D are basically C with a few add ons so it makes sense thet
> want to keep things the same that does not mean they are good ... and
> none of those are major languages ..

Note that strongest BY FAR the strongest thing said there is one
instance of the word "crap". Big deal...

I may not agree with those statements, but they're FAR from being the
abusive community-destroying slander that the moderator is making it out
to be. To look at THOSE quotes above and claim that they're
unacceptable *IS* to claim that merely voicing a distaste for something
is unacceptable, because those quotes say nothing more than that.

It's either an overreaction to the quotes, or it's whitewashing reality
itself. There's nothing else in those quotes to take issue with unless
we're so very immature that we can't even handle the word "crap".






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