D vs Go in real life

[Paulo Pinto]

On Friday, 22 November 2013 at 14:43:11 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Friday, 22 November 2013 at 14:11:50 UTC, bearophile wrote:
>> Chris wrote:
>>
>>> E.g. one day D might implement features that have to do with 
>>> what Facebook needs more than features that programmers need 
>>> in general. So a module std.webshite.upload.latest.picture 
>>> gets all the attention while std.reallyhandy is being 
>>> neglected.
>>
>> Do you know one or two cases where this phenomenon has 
>> happened to a language?
>>
>> Bye,
>> bearophile
>
> Good question! To be honest I cannot put my finger on any 
> module of any language in particular. Maybe Objective-C would 
> be an example where sometimes things would advance at breakneck 
> pace in Cocoa, while some handy features in the standard 
> Objective-C library (e.g. in NSString) would still be missing 
> (but that's years ago now, I haven't used it for a while, so I 
> dunno how it has developed).
>
> Java is a good example of how (corporate) ideology (and 
> management) ruins things. Everything is a class, if you don't 
> want this, you create a class and declare static functions to 
> turn off OOP.

You know that this comes from the original concept of what OOP is 
all about and Smalltalk, right?

There are no free functions in pure OO languages, like there are 
no objects in pure FP languages.

Of course, meanwhile we have learned there are other ways to do 
OO, but don't blame Java for Smalltalk concepts.

--
Paulo