Zimbu

[growler]

On Sunday, 15 September 2013 at 22:08:00 UTC, growler wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 September 2013 at 21:26:50 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>> On 15 September 2013 21:12, Nick Sabalausky
>> <SeeWebsiteToContactMe at semitwist.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:03:04 -0300
>>> Ary Borenszweig <ary at esperanto.org.ar> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/13/13 7:51 PM, Justin Whear wrote:
>>>> > Just ran across this: http://www.zimbu.org/
>>>> > A language by Bram Moolenaar (original author and 
>>>> > maintainer of
>>>> > vim). The "Why Zimbu?" section on the right side of the 
>>>> > homepage has
>>>> > comparisons to other languages.  D is the last comparison,
>>>> > suggesting that it meets all the other qualifications but 
>>>> > fails on
>>>> > "It has to run on most systems, anything with a C 
>>>> > compiler, so D is
>>>> > out."
>>>> >
>>>> > Note: I'm fine with D not running absolutely everywhere, I 
>>>> > only
>>>> > write it on linux for linux.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I DON'T KNOW why, but I find it SOMEHOW hard or annoying TO 
>>>> READ...
>>>
>>> Funny Id noticed THE same thing too } Which IS strange lack OF
>>> punctuation normally makes things easier TO read doesnt it }
>>>
>>> But I imagine you'd probably get used to those things pretty 
>>> quicky,
>>> though. It's just syntax, after all. But holding SHIFT all 
>>> the time may
>>> be harder to get used to. I've done plenty of all-caps 
>>> keywords back in
>>> my BASIC days, and I can't say I miss it - or that I find it 
>>> in any way
>>> easier to read.
>>>
>>> I don't like the idea of language-enforced style. I do 
>>> understand the
>>> rationale, but to me it's just minutia that has no business 
>>> being
>>> nanny-supervised.
>>>
>>> Zimbu's actually been around for quite some time now. I first 
>>> came
>>> across it several years ago when trying to find a modern 
>>> native systems
>>> language that wasn't C/C++. I moved on in favor of D because 
>>> Zumba
>>> seemed to be in much more of an early experimental state. 
>>> Looks
>>> like it's further along now, but not as much as I would have 
>>> guessed.
>>> Maybe all the attention on D/Rust/Go already sucked up most 
>>> potential
>>> contributors?
>>>
>>
>> Well, ZImbu gets a -42 out of 10 for code readability and 
>> maintainability. :-)
>>
>> https://code.google.com/p/zimbu/source/browse/zimbu2c.c
>
> looks like something f2c would spew out...and well, line 1, 2, 
> & 3 explain it:
>
> /*
>  * Generated from Zimbu file zimbu2c.zu
>  */
>
>
> Vim sources are actually quite readable...considering it's old 
> greybeard C:
> https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/src/fold.c

Sorry, hit the send too soon...trying a new terminal bases 
browser, purely for masochist reasons and only just figured out 
how to go back :-)

I was going to say that C output shown there could be auto 
formatted easily enough, but the Zimbu syntax is a bit too ugly 
for my liking. Looks like CERN smashed C and COBOL particles 
together to release a Zimbu.