Had another 48hr game jam this weekend...

PauloPinto pjmlp at progtools.org
Wed Sep 18 04:04:26 PDT 2013


On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 at 07:59:43 UTC, Manu wrote:
> On 18 September 2013 17:45, PauloPinto <pjmlp at progtools.org> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is mostly C# actually.
>>
>> The VS 2010 rewrite was a way to fix WPF bugs and prove the 
>> developers at
>> large that big applications could be done in WPF.
>>
>> As far as I can tell from MSDN blogs, the only C++ bits left 
>> standing were
>> the ones related to C++ development.
>>
>> This most likely changed with the whole "Going Native" story 
>> afterwards.
>>
>
> It's clear that MS have no idea WTF they're doing with 
> VisualStudio, that's
> been clear for half a decade... I'm just waiting for a viable 
> alternative
> to emerge.
> Still nothing...

I think it is all very political what is driving them.

With Longhorn, there was the plan to make the OS .NET based, 
similar to how OS/400 works, and to certain extent Android and 
WP7 were done.

As Longhorn project was rebooted and Vista came out, whatever 
problems the teams were having with Longhorn rewrite of Win32 
into .NET was attributed to the tooling.

As we all know in our jobs it is easier to blame tooling as the 
people.

As such the native tools group inside Microsoft felt empowered 
and started pushing into the back to native direction we see 
nowadays.

Even the WinRT runtime is nothing new, it was actually developed 
in 1999.

Microsoft Research proposed a language neutral COM runtime, which 
eventually became .NET instead.

http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-components-postattachments/00-10-32-72-38/Ext_2D00_VOS.pdf

Full story here, 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dsyme/archive/2012/07/05/more-c-net-generics-history-the-msr-white-paper-from-mid-1999.aspx

I have no idea how far or close from the truth this is, but it is 
my gut feeling how these events developed themselves.

Typical enterprise political games, which affect everyone that 
wants to target Windows as well.

--
Paulo


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