[OT] Which IDE / Editor do you use?

H. S. Teoh hsteoh at quickfur.ath.cx
Mon Sep 23 07:50:43 PDT 2013


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 02:01:02PM +0200, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 23 September 2013 at 11:52:28 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> >On 21/09/2013 16:07, Manu wrote:
> >>...
> >
> >My feelings exactly. I learned about Linux and studied it when I
> >was in high-school (Windows 98/Me era), and I was quite excited
> >about it. Windows was more shite those days, and I knew Linux was
> >not for the average user, but I thought that once I learned it
> >well enough (shell, network, configuring partitions, automounting,
> >the X server, etc.), it would be worthwhile to use.
> >That wasn't the case unfortunately. There was always new stuff
> >that would come up that you would need to learn how to configure,
> >or need to thinker, or there would be shortcomings in application
> >functionality. After a certain point it was just annoying. It
> >might be "fun" for people who get kicks out of working the innards
> >of a system and being closer to how things work, but on my
> >computer I wanted to either have my leisure time, or get real work
> >done. And spending time configuring stuff (that in Windows just
> >worked out of the box) is not a productive use of one's time in
> >any way, shape or form.
> >
> >True, this was like 10 years ago and Linux distros got better, but
> >so has Windows, and nowdays there is little motivation now for me
> >to try a different OS/desktop-environment.
> 
> Ironically, this is exactly the reason I have never succeeded in
> using the Windows for daily work. Amount of manual configuration and
> subverting the defaults needed to make it actually usable for my
> programming flow is outstanding. In the same time on my Linux distro
> it is mostly `pacman -Sy gnome gnome-extra xorg-server nvidia dlang
> vim git` and I am ready to work on a fresh install.

Ditto.

I'm surprised at people talking about the amount of time spent
configuring stuff on Linux, etc., because it's never happened to me! I
mean, OK, in the early days you had to manually configure X11 and deal
with all of the obscure problems, but that's no longer the case today.
All I have to do is 'apt-get install <package>' and it Just Works(tm).

I do like to tweak stuff -- and this is where Windows falls flat for me,
'cos it forces you to work a certain way, and when you go outside of
that, things just stop working or it becomes an uphill battle
(disclaimer: I haven't touched Windows for over a decade, so this may no
longer be true today) -- but the default settings installed by apt-get
*do* work. So I've no idea what people are talking about when they
complain about needing to tweak this and that by hand. Linux *lets* you
tweak stuff by hand, but, at least as far as Debian is concerned, the
defaults pretty much Just Work.

The whole bit about me recompiling the kernel and stuff -- the whole
point was that I *wanted* to run a custom kernel, and Linux lets me do
that. On Windows, this isn't even an option to begin with. The stock
Debian kernel actually just works out of the box -- and had I wanted to,
I could have just used that instead and never needed to do anything
else.


T

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