Do everything in Java…

Vic via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Sat Dec 6 16:55:38 PST 2014


On Saturday, 6 December 2014 at 16:23:46 UTC, H. S. Teoh via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 03:48:42PM +0000, Russel Winder via 
> Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 2014-12-06 at 07:14 -0800, H. S. Teoh via 
>> Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> > 
>> […]
>> > Oh, I *know* there are Javascript testing frameworks out 
>> > there...
>> > the problem is convincing people to actually incorporate 
>> > said tests
>> > as part of the development process. Sure, *I* can run the 
>> > tests with
>> > my own code changes, but there are 50-100 developers working 
>> > on the
>> > project who are also constantly making changes, and unless 
>> > they also
>> > regularly run unittests, the whole exercise is kinda moot.
>> 
>> If the team is 50 to 100 programmers 1 of whom thinks testing 
>> is a
>> good idea then I can see an unmitigatable disaster looming and 
>> the
>> technical bosses (*) being sacked. Best bet, get a new job now.
>> 
>> 
>> (*) management and accounting bosses never get sacked, because 
>> it is
>> never their fault.
> [...]
>
> Disaster *looming*? Haha... disaster has been *happening* for 
> the past
> how many years now... Hence my earlier references to regressions
> spiralling out of control and new features breaking old ones 
> like
> there's no tomorrow, and developers scrambling like mad to fix 
> them all
> in a whack-a-mole bid to bash the product into shippable form 
> by the
> deadline, of which we tend to be informed the week of (or 
> sometimes, the
> Friday afternoon before a Monday deadline)...
>
> Fortunately(?), no one has been sacked yet. Part of it may have 
> to do
> with the fact that practically all our customers are corporate, 
> and
> corporate customers tend to value business relationships and 
> deals above
> actual product quality, even when they're on the receiving end. 
> (Just my
> cynical guess, though. I have no concrete evidence of this. :-P)
>
>
> T

+1,000

( D scope should be smaller than C. JRE/CLR should be of limits.
Also this one dude(Linus) talks about a big lang(C++) and it's 
advocates:
- http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
I'm sure he he has no credibility /s )



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