Do everything in Java…

[Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 11 December 2014 at 12:00:25 UTC, ketmar via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:51:21 +0000
> Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> >> Come on, that is not even a half decent analogy.
>> > it is. you can't see any uses of (semi)compiled module files 
>> > (and i
>> > can; it's essential for component framework, for example). i 
>> > can't see
>> > any uses of compiled binaries (i don't need that in component
>> > framework).
>> 
>> Actually I asked in this thread what the benefits are and the 
>> only one that come up was improved compilation speed due to 
>> caching of the lexing/parsing stage.
>> 
>> If you think it is a good idea for a component framework, 
>> would you please explain how? Honest question.
> the core of the component framework a-la BlackBox Component 
> Builder is
> dynamic module system. this requires dynamic linker, and the 
> linker
> must know alot about framework internals to be fast and usable. 
> with
> precompiled modules which keeps symbolic information and ASTs 
> for
> templates such linker can be written as independend module. you 
> don't
> need to add hacks to runtime, to care about correct .so 
> building and
> loading order and so on.
>
> it's too long to explain in NG post. if you really interested 
> you can
> take a look at BlackBox Component Builder itself, it's 
> open-source.
> having ".sym" and ".cod" files are necessary to make such system
> usable.
>
> D has a great foundation to build component framework a-la BCB. 
> there
> are *no* competitors for D here, and having such system can 
> boost D
> popularity to the skies. BCB failed due to two strategic errors:
> choosing Component Pascal as the system language (CP is great 
> language,
> but the reality is that you cannot with with "pascal") and 
> resisting to
> open-source the system until it was too late.
>
> with "AST-companions" D is in position to occupy that niche. D 
> is
> c-like, D has great metaprogramming abilities, D is 
> open-source. it's
> doomed to win.

To be honest, with .NET Native and OpenJDK getting an AOT 
compiler around the corner (Java 9 or 10 not yet decided) this 
opportunity is already lost.

--
Paulo