Lost a new commercial user this week :(

[ketmar via Digitalmars-d]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:24:36 +1000
Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:

> On 17 December 2014 at 20:33, ketmar via Digitalmars-d
> <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 +0000
> > Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
> >
> >> std.container.Array(T) if(is(Unqual!T == bool)) vs.
> >> std.container.Array(T) if(!is(Unqual!T == bool)).
> >>
> >> That's super unhelpful for newcomers.
> > that's why newcomers should NOT try to learn the language using
> > reference documentation for standard library.
> >
> > when i started to learn D, i found and read Andrei's book, Ali's book
> > and Philippe's "template tutorial". and i never complained that phobos
> > reference documentation is "hostile to beginners" -- 'cause it's NOT
> > for beginners. you are expected to learn the language before reading
> > reference dox.
> 
> I couldn't disagree more. People aren't allocated work time to read books.
> Books are for students or language enthusiasts who want to learn about
> programming in their home time. That doesn't apply to most
> professional programmers I've ever worked with.
that's right: most "professional programmes" i've seen simply can't
program. i wouldn't allow them to wash my dishes.

> Most people just want to go home to their wives and kids.
that's why the whole software industry sux nowdays. if one doesn't like
his work he shouldn't do that work. simple as it is.

(just for info: i'm near my 40 and i still love to spend sleepless
nights writing interesting code or learning something new)

> Docs need to have examples which are plain and obvious, and the
> language will be absorbed by osmosis.
but phobos dox are exactly like this! i was never puzzled by phobos
documentation, and it has alot of samples which illustrates various
things. reader just expected to know D, it's template system and some
basic "idiomatic" things like ranges.
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