Lost a new commercial user this week :(

[Manu via Digitalmars-d]

On 19 December 2014 at 23:45, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 13:33:08 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 09:15:18 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/18/2014 2:24 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>>>
>>>> People aren't allocated work time to read books.
>>>
>>>
>>> This can't be generally true. Most people who attend programming
>>> conferences, for example, are attending on their employer's dime.
>>
>>
>> Are you _quite_ sure about that?  Because all my experience agrees with
>> Manu.  If any of us (I think we have about 400 developers here?) have need
>> of a book, we're skimming it and cherry-picking the important bits to what
>> needs done _right now_.
>>  This is part of why I really appreciate that Andrei had a proper index
>> written for TDPL; it makes it fit into "real world" workflows (as I know
>> them) much better.
>>
>> The class of people who attend programming conferences is an extreme
>> minority of our field.  They're about as representative of our industry as
>> you believe the posters on these newsgroups are of the D userbase.
>
>
> New D developers at Sociomantic are given "Learn Tango with D" book and time
> to investigate it in details before starting any real work. Job I had before
> was crappy enterprise mess but there still was time reserved for books in a
> developer schedule. I'd expect it from any half-decent job.

Sociomantic is obviously already married to D. You're in such a tiny
niche it's crazy, it's no wonder they find it necessary to give
training material to new starts.
I challenge you to convince management to give the new starts a
Haskell book instead, and also have a talk about how Haskell is really
cool, it's the way of the future, we should look into switching some
time! That's where the rest of us are at by comparison.

Are you also arguing that's a reasonable expectation for any 'half decent job'?
Well, apparently most of the world aren't entitled to 'half decent
jobs'. People have whatever jobs they can get.
For what it's worth, I enjoy working in games and realtime/embedded
software. I have never felt hard-done-by because I'm not awarded 10's
of hours to read books in my work time.