Smart pointers instead of GC?

[Frustrated]

On Saturday, 1 February 2014 at 19:11:28 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 09:57:41 -0800, Frustrated 
> <c1514843 at drdrb.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 1 February 2014 at 17:30:54 UTC, Sean Kelly wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 1 February 2014 at 11:40:37 UTC, Frustrated 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And why does Phobos/runtime require the GC in so many cases 
>>>> when
>>>> it could just use an internal buffer? So much effort has 
>>>> been put
>>>> in to make the GC work that it simply has neglected all those
>>>> that can't use it as it is.
>>>
>>> This is the crux of the problem.  It's not so much that D 
>>> uses garbage collection as that Phobos is built in a way that 
>>> prevents the reuse of existing buffers.  It becomes much 
>>> harder to sell the language to a GC averse group if it turns 
>>> out they can't use the standard library as well.  Though I 
>>> guess Tango is an option here as a replacement.
>>
>> Right, and because of the mentality that the GC is one size 
>> that
>> fits all, phobos got this way. That mentality is still 
>> pervasive.
>> I call it laziness.
>>
>> I think that at some point phobos will need to be rewritten...
>> maybe more .net like(there sense of hierarchy and presentation 
>> is
>> excellent).  Maybe D needs a proper allocator sub system built 
>> in
>> to get to that point?
>
> You do realize that in .NET the BCL is not GC-optional right. 
> It GC-allocates like a fiend. What they have is a monumentally 
> better GC than D. .NET is actually proof that GC's can work 
> quite well in all but the most extreme edge cases.
>
> Effectively what you are saying is ".NET does it well with a GC 
> so we need to rewrite Phobos to not use a GC" ... Um wait, what?
>
> I am not saying to Phobos needs to allocate as much as it does, 
> just that argument itself fails to met a basic standard of 
> logical coherency.

No, you read way more in that than what I said. I am not talking
about the .NET GC(I or I would have said ".NET GC"). You totally
fabricated what you think I "effectively said".

By writing the phobos like .NET, I mean, in terms of .NET's
organization and structure.