Voting: std.logger

Robert burner Schadek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Tue Jul 29 16:09:27 PDT 2014


On Tuesday, 29 July 2014 at 06:09:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
>
> My vote is a qualified "yes" contingent upon fixes that I'll 
> give detail on below. In the current form my vote is "no" 
> seeing as the module makes a number of unforced tactical 
> errors. Overall I think the goods are there, and are easy to 
> put in acceptable form.

> Here's my list:
>
> 1. Minimal logging level must be selected statically in 
> addition to the current dynamic selection. Static settings 
> preclude dynamic settings. This is not negotiable.

I'm not sure how you except log(LogLevel.xxxx, "Hello world") to 
be disabled at compile time if LogLevel.xxxx is a runtime value? 
Or do I misunderstood you?

you can choose to disable name based logging like trace("Hello 
trace") at CT with the current release

>
> 2. All logging code must be rigorously eliminated if below the 
> static logging level. More precisely, there must be a front-end 
> optimization that eliminates all code dedicated to a "lazy" 
> variable that's not used by a generic function. This would be a 
> fantastic redeeming of the "lazy" keyword, which has been of 
> marginal utility until now. The challenge here is cooperating 
> with someone on the compiler team to make sure that front-end 
> improvement gets implemented, and writing unit tests that make 
> sure there's no regression later. This is not negotiable.

If you disabled one on the names logging functions at CT other 
prototypes will be used that have no lazy in it. You said that 
empty functions with lazy parameter are not optimized away. So 
there are no empty functions with lazy parameter if you disable 
these functions. As soon as the compiler can kill empty functions 
with lazy arguments this branching can be removed without any 
user code adjustment.

>
> 3. The suffix notations must be replaced with overloads. The 
> only acceptable suffix is "f" for formatting. Everything else 
> must be achieved via overloads with the help of template 
> constraints. Robert's answer http://goo.gl/FehDVh suggests he 
> didn't consider using template constraints. We can't let that 
> slip become a feature of the library for millenia to come.
>
> The overloads must be:
>
> // just log stuff
> log(T...)(lazy T stuff) if (!is(T[0] : const LogLevel));
> // log with format
> logf(S, T...)(lazy S fmt, lazy T stuff) if (isSomeString!Str);
> // log conditional with format
> logf(S, T...)(lazy bool cond, lazy S fmt, lazy T stuff) if 
> (isSomeString!Str);
>
> These three overloads should be repeated for all logging 
> functions (info, trace etc). The functions don't evaluate their 
> arguments if the respective log level is disabled.
>
> The following functions will NOT be repeated for all logging 
> functions:
>
> // just log stuff at some level
> log(T...)(LogLevel lvl, lazy T stuff) if (!is(T[0] : const 
> LogLevel));
> // log with format
> logf(S, T...)(LogLevel lvl, lazy S fmt, lazy T stuff) if 
> (isSomeString!Str);
> // log conditional with format
> logf(S, T...)(LogLevel lvl, lazy bool cond, lazy S fmt, lazy T 
> stuff) if (isSomeString!Str);
>
> These overloads always evaluate their first argument eagerly to 
> determine the required logging level. Depending on it they may 
> or may not evaluate their other arguments.
>
> This is not negotiable.

Overloads are implemented in the current version. They behave as 
you described.

>
> 4. Replace defaultLogger with theLog. "Logger" is a word, but 
> one that means "lumberjack" so it doesn't have the appropriate 
> semantics. The use is generally acceptable as a nice play on 
> words and as a disambiguator between the verb "to log" and the 
> noun "log". When we actually want to talk about the current log 
> in an application, we should, however, call it "the log". This 
> is negotiable.

I really don't care how a global Logger instance is called. 
Anyone else has an opinion on this? Otherwise Andrei wins.

>
> 5. I was hoping for a resolution on throttling. However, now I 
> realize that conditional logging plus throttling functions that 
> return true once in a while should work acceptably well. 
> Higher-order functions taking lambdas that log would also be a 
> nice possibility. So... no request here.

Creating a std.logger.conditions module is on my todo, 
std.logger.(stderr,stdout) will be cut because of being to noisy. 
I'm thinking of
* anyN
* anyNmillisec
* firstN
* ...


>
> 6. I'm still hoping for RefCounted as the storage for the class 
> backend. I realize users can do their own management but log 
> objects are unlikely to contain cycles and other liabilities 
> for reference counting, and at some point if we want to use 
> reference counting where appropriate we got to start somewhere 
> with a few solid precedents. This is negotiable, but I plan to 
> fight for it.

IMO something is wrong in the users code if the GC working on 
Logger instances is slowing the code done. The Logger instances 
properly stay around for the length of the programs execution. If 
you create Logger in a tight loop RC will properly slow you down 
as well.

>
>> 4) Any additional comments for author.
>
> Don't let any of the above discourage you. This is great work 
> and is already one foot in. Let's get this done and done. Don't 
> forget - it's all about Deutsche Gründlichkeit!
>
>
> Andrei

Hope this brings you closer to a "yes"
Robert



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