Out of sight out of mind

[Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d]

On 6/16/14, 10:09 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 June 2014 at 15:37:22 UTC, Andrew Edwards wrote:
>> Observe the following truths:
>>     1) Issue tricking and resolution are kept separate in our community
>>     2) That which is not visible garners no attention
>
> Your message has not convinced me that the change would address the
> issues present.
>
>  From what I've seen Bugzilla has integrated well with Github.
> Mentioning a bug in a conversation may not get an autolink, but that
> doesn't sound like the issue trying to be solved.
>

The issue I'm trying to solve is to make "issues" more visible to people 
who work on them. By putting those issues in the same location where 
developers work, they immediately become more visible. Does it solve the 
overall problem? No, definitely not! Doing so will not "MAKE" anyone 
properly categorize, update, or even look at those issues. But it does 
them more and therefore, garners more attention than if it were hidden 
away in a separate system.

I log into github and, even though I'm unable to do much to improve the 
situation by way of coding knowledge, I cannot but help clicking on the 
list of outstanding pull requests, or the pulse tab to get a quick 
glance of what's happening. If the issues where there, I would click on 
them too: who knows, there may be a problem that I can solve. 
Comparatively, the only time I access bugzilla is to check the list of 
regressions when preparing for release. That doesn't even require me to 
go to the system... just copy the link from the last message I posted.

The argument I'm hearing from the majority (at least those who choose to 
respond) is "too much work for minimal gain." My question is too much 
work for who? I'm volunteering to do the entire move myself. All the 
community has to do is start creating new issues in GitHub and, until 
such time as all reports are transferred to GitHub, continue to closeout 
task on bugzilla where appropriate. That is no more work than what is 
being done now because we are already using both systems.