2 types of D users, both can live together happily if we adjust

[via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 27 November 2014 at 23:24:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> *do* something about it. Be the champion of whatever you 
> propose, get on
> the ground and work it out, make it happen. Contribute code. 
> Help
> improve the infrastructure. Be the change you wish to see take 
> place.

Sound advice if you want a single feature, but this does not work 
for restructuring and management. You cannot "commit" people into 
moving in the same direction, you need to create common ground. 
That takes time if there is no skilled leader to pull it through.

> While these forums can be quite entertaining, from my 
> observations most
> of the animated discourse ultimately results in nothing -- 
> because
> nobody actually got up to *do* something about it.

I disagree, intelligent people pick up the arguments even though 
they may not like them at the time they face them. These 
arguments eventually move up through their brainstem if they are 
good at learning (I think most programmers are good at that). By 
iterating over the most problematic issues you get many 
viewpoints and a new direction might emerge over time (measured 
in years, not weeks).

The @nogc focus got in by "external" advocacy. It did take some 
noise, but it got in.

> So, if you wish to see the changes you propose, I'd say your 
> best bet is
> to start *doing* something about it

In this case it actually means refactoring the compiler codebase, 
which will by necessity lead to a fork if this is not wanted by 
the main developers as it will break up their existing mental 
model of the program.