Who pays for all this?

[Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d]

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On 06/10/14 03:28, Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
> I've placed a couple of anonymous bounties, but I personally think
> it's a bad way to get directed focused effort.  A democracy of
> people trying to get what they individually want done through small
> donations?
> 
> […]

Conversely, Groovy has become a major language in the Java-verse
without a foundation. Historically it grew simply as a community FOSS
project but then as the major "applications" (Grails and Gradle being
the two main ones currently, but there are others), it became clear
that consulting companies could be profitable because there was
traction in the market. G2One was formed which was very quickly bought
by SpringSource which was bought by VMWare which got spawned off as
part of Pivotal. Pivotal do not own Groovy (though they do imply they
own Grails, which is fine) but they do fund three full-time employees
on the Groovy project. Also Gradleware was formed to consult about
Gradle use and managed to get Maven replaced by Gradle as the primary
build tool for Android (and also there was a shift from Eclipse to
IntelliJ IDEA as the basis of the primary IDE). Add to this the Spock
test framework which is rapidly gaining traction over TestNG and
JUnit4, and Groovy is actually in a very good position even without a
foundation.

Conversely to that a foundation is nonetheless being considered simply
as an organization to own the "product" (as PSF owns Python). However,
the USA is looking increasingly the place *NOT* to set up a
foundation. It is allright for existing ones, such as Python, but the
hurdles to create new ones are becoming astronomical.

UK, France and Germany are currently being investigated as places to
set up a "non profit". For the UK, the issue is for a company to
become a registered charity so as to be able to handle funds without
incurring corporation tax. There are other alternatives in the UK and
it is currently being checked whether one of these is a good route to
a full on charitable status company. The issue is whether conversion
of the originating organization to a company with charitable status
can be achieved as a single action. Sadly for us just now lawyers
opinions cost money…
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