Program logic bugs vs input/environmental errors

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On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 20:37:18 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> forbidden from advancing at their own level (thus boring the 
> shit out of them and seeding quite a few additional problems).

Yeah, I've always wondered if the motivation for keeping kids 
locked up in schools is to prevent them from doing mischief in 
the streets and teach them to accept hours of pointless boredom 
so that they will eventually accept doing boring pointless stuff 
when they later join the workforce as bureaucrats. :-/

> Obviously US teachers have no idea what the word "fair" 
> actually means. But then, in my experience, there's a LOT that 
> US teachers don't know.

The status of teaching has gone downhill. It used to be viewed as 
highly skilled work, then you got some idealistic teachers of the 
1968-generation, but after the yuppie period in the 80s it has 
become the easy path to higher-education when you don't know what 
you want to do except that you aren't good with theory and you 
want to work with people. I think the same can be said about 
psychology, the field you enter if you don't know what to study 
and find science too difficult… (or am I being unfair?)

> statement on unions in general, BTW) and the complete and total 
> lack of "logic" being part of the curriculum *they* were taught 
> as kids (which is still inexcusably absent from modern 
> curriculums).

"logic" is theory. Theory does not belong in schools. Too 
difficult. You are only supposed to learn things that you don't 
have to figure out, otherwise finding qualified teachers will 
become impossible.

> US has a few of those too. They're constantly ridiculed (leave 
> it to the US to blast anything that isn't 
> group-think-compatible), but from what I've seen Montesorri's 
> are at least less god-awful than US public schools.

We have a few Montesorri and a few more Rudolph Steiner schools. 
Which I believe are better at motivating kids and at least not 
killing the fun of learning. Learning that figuring things out 
and doing things your own way is fun is a very important lesson.

The government says that the public school system has changed and 
is kind of incorporating those methodologies too, but that is not 
what I see. And how can a single teacher handle 27 kids in a 
class, with only 2 minutes per kid per hour and a rigid plan for 
what you are supposed to teach?

Btw, did you know that the majority in Norway voted against 
joining EU, so we did not, but since the majority of politicians 
were pro EU they got us in the backdoor by signing away our 
freedom in treaties instead? And even when the treaties do not 
apply we "harmonize our laws to EU" because we "just have to". So 
thanks to bureaucratic maneuvers we are now 99% EU regulated, 
have shittier consumer laws than we used to, have next to no 
control on the borders and are flooded by romanian beggars and 
criminals from every corner of Europe and beyond, in return we 
get no vote in the EU decision making process since we are 
"independent"… You gotta love democracy…

On a positive note: the IOC managed to demand that the norwegian 
King ought to hold a party for the IOC leaders and additionally 
demanded that he should pay their drinks. It was part of their 
7000 page olympics qualification requirements document. It is so 
heavily regulated that it explicitly specifies that the personnel 
in the hotels MUST SMILE to the IOC leaders when they arrive. I 
kid you not, even games and past times are heavily bureaucratic 
down to minuscule details these days. So, due pressure from the 
newspapers/grassroots and the royal insult the politicians 
eventually had to turn down the ~$10.000.000.000 winter olympics 
budget proposal. Good riddance. Live monarchy!

I am personally looking forward to Beijing hosting the winter 
olympics 2022. I am sure they will mange to fake a smile after 
the politicians have demolished their homes to make space for the 
ski-jumping event.

In the meantime Norway should not even think about hosting any 
sporting event until we can avoid being ranked as the worlds most 
expensive country: 
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp 
'Cause, we all know that a $10 billion budget turns into at least 
a $30 billion budget before the games are over. That would have 
been $6000 per capita. I'd say that royal insult paid off.

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