DIP77 - Fix unsafe RC pass by 'ref'

Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Thu Apr 9 11:43:25 PDT 2015


On 4/9/2015 5:05 AM, Michel Fortin wrote:
> Why should it not have an opAssign marked @system?

"Andrei's idea was to not do the copy for @system opAssign's, thus providing C++ 
equivalence for those folks that need it and don't care about guaranteed memory 
safety."


> And what happens if the struct has a postblit but it is @disabled? Will the
> compiler forbid you from passing it by ref in cases where it'd need to make a
> copy, or will it just not be a RCO?

It wouldn't be an RCO.


> More generally, is it right to add implicit copying just because a struct has a
> postblit and a destructor? If someone implemented a by-value container in D
> (such as those found in C++), this behaviour of the compiler would trash the
> performance by silently doing useless unnecessary copies. You won't even get
> memory-safety as a benefit: if the container allocates from the GC it's safe
> anyway, otherwise you're referencing deallocated memory with your ref parameter
> (copying the struct would just make a copy elsewhere, not retain the memory of
> the original).

The only real purpose to a postblit is to support ref counting. Why would a 
by-value container use a postblit and not ref count?


> I think you're assuming too much from the presence of a postblit and a
> destructor. This implicit copy behaviour should not be trigged by seemingly
> unrelated clues. Instead of doing that:
>
>      auto tmp = rc;
>
> the compiler should insert this:
>
>      auto tmp = rc.opPin();
>
> RCArray can implement opPin by returning a copy of itself. A by-value container
> can implement opPin by returning a dummy struct that retains the container's
> memory until the dummy struct's destructor is called. Alternatively someone
> could make a dummy "void opPin() @system {}" to signal it isn't safe to pass
> internal references around (only in system code would the implicit call to opPin
> compile). If you were writing a layout-compatible D version of std::vector,
> you'd likely have to use a @system opPin because there's no way you can "pin"
> that memory and guaranty memory-safety when passing references around.

My first impression is that's too complicated for the user to get right.



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