Thoughts on replacement languages (Reddit + D)

[weaselcat via Digitalmars-d]

On Sunday, 11 January 2015 at 20:47:37 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
> On Sunday, 11 January 2015 at 19:42:38 UTC, ponce wrote:
>> On Sunday, 11 January 2015 at 19:38:12 UTC, bearophile wrote:
>>> Are you always able to detect them? I think languages (and 
>>> programmers) that don't have a strict attitude toward memory 
>>> safety will be slowly left behind in the few next years. D is 
>>> lacking in this (and the scoping management should be able to 
>>> plug some holes, and in the meantime there is this: 
>>> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/4277 ).
>>
>> There are tools to do that: 
>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-inspector-xe
>> When we do have a memory safety bug, these tools help, and 
>> then I think "this wouldn't have happened in D" even without 
>> @safe. So I don't think D lacking in this.
>
> Recently both Clang and GCC(? I think GCC has all of them now, 
> maybe not) have integrated address,memory,thread, and undefined 
> behavior sanitizer tools directly into their compiler aswell.
>
> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html#controlling-code-generation
>
> I don't think the memory safety issue is as big of an issue for 
> 99% of people as it is for a group like Mozilla. I'm not even 
> sure if Rust is going to replace C++ so much as possibly 
> displace Ada.
>
> Rust's lifetimes and borrow checker also really aren't fun, I 
> feel like it really breaks my flow when I use Rust. It's like 
> the opposite of python(or D), where I can get the least amount 
> of scaffolding I need to get my concepts working, then fix it 
> later. Maybe the language just isn't targeted for someone like 
> me though.
>
> Rust still has things I'd like to see in D.
> Just my two cents.

P.S., the sanitizer tools are built directly ontop of LLVM 
AFAIK(I haven't looked into how GCC incorporated them,) is there 
any chance we could ever see them being used for D?