dmd makes D appear slow

[Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d]

On 6 June 2015 at 01:20, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 5 June 2015 at 22:07:48 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>
>> On 5 Jun 2015 20:55, "Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d" <
>> digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2015 19:35, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>  >This isn't the first time I've seen this, in basically >every
>>>>> benchmark
>>>>> >featuring D I have to submit a patch/make a comment that >dmd
>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>> >be used. Make no mistake, this is damaging to D's >reputation - how
>>>>> >well does D's "native efficiency" go over when people are >saying it's
>>>>> >slower than Scala and F#(mono)?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >LDC and GDC need promoted more.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This will probably offend some people, but I think LDC/GDC should be the
>>>> default download on dlang.org, and dmd should be provided as an
>>>> alternative for those who want the latest language version and don't
>>>> mind the speed compromise.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It should be more than just LDC/GDC being the default download on
>>>
>> dlang.org, the DM backend and related toolchain should be phased out
>> altogether in favor of LLVM.
>>
>>>
>>> Walter might have written great compiler tools in the 90s or so, but in
>>>
>> today's internet and FOSS online-collaborative era, how can the Digital
>> Mars toolchain hope to compete with toolchains having teams of multiple
>> full-time developers working on it? (plus a plethora of occasional
>> volunteer contributors). The difference in manpower and resources is
>> astonishing! And it's only gonna get bigger since LLVM is having more and
>> more people and companies supporting it. By this rate, it may well one day
>> make even GCC old and obsolete, left to be used by FSF zealots only.
>>
>>>
>>>
>> At the risk of speaking with lack of foresight, are you on the gcc mailing
>> list too? If not, get on it. Otherwise you will enter this kind of
>> polarised view of X will dominate all.
>>
>
>  Slightly off topic, but I recently started digging into GDC( on your
> personal fork, anyways.) I find the code pleasantly easy to navigate and
> understand. I don't think I've given gdc its due credit in this thead.
>
> Bye,
>

If you've been following the 2.067 re-work, that is really the way things
are going right now.  More encapsulation, less of the flat hierachal
structure is the key securing future interest.  My hope is that GDC will
fall into the "what a good frontend shoudl do" category after I'm done.
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