Right after allocators: containers or database connectivity?
Charles Hixson via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Tue Jun 9 11:18:11 PDT 2015
On 06/09/2015 10:56 AM, luminousone via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 17:05:19 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> My work on allocators takes the last turn before the straight line.
>> I've arranged with Dicebot to overlap the review period with
>> finalizing details so I can act on feedback quickly.
>>
>> After that I'm ready for some major library work, and I had two
>> things in mind.
>>
>> One would be a good pass of std.container, in particular (a) a design
>> review with the DbI glasses on; (b) better documentation - sadly it
>> seems to me so inadequate as to make containers themselves unusable;
>> (c) investigate use of UFCS - std.container's design predates UFCS
>> yet is a perfect fit for it, and most likely other cool language
>> improvements we've added since.
>>
>> The other would be database connectivity. Erik Smith has shown some
>> cool ideas at DConf, and I encourage him to continue working on them,
>> but it seems to me this is an area where more angles mean more
>> connectivity options.
>>
>> For database connectivity I'm thinking of using ODBC. What I see is
>> that on all major platforms, vendors offer mature, good quality ODBC
>> drivers, and most programs that have anything to do with databases
>> offer ODBC connectivity. So connecting with ODBC means the individual
>> database drivers are already there; no need to waste effort on
>> creating drivers for each (or asking vendors to, which we can't afford).
>>
>> So I gave myself ten minutes the other night just before I went to
>> sleep to see if I can get an ODBC rig on my OSX machine starting from
>> absolutely nothing. I got http://www.odbcmanager.net but then got
>> confused about where to find some dumb driver (text, csv) and gave up.
>>
>> Last night I gave myself another ten minutes, and lo and behold I got
>> up and running. Got a demo CSV driver from
>> http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php (which also supports
>> Access and others). Then I headed to
>> http://www.easysoft.com/developer/languages/c/odbc_tutorial.html and
>> was able to run a simple ODBC application that lists the available
>> drivers. Nice!
>>
>> It's trivial work to convert the C headers to D declarations. Then
>> it's straight library design to offer convenient libraries on top of
>> the comprehensive but pedestrian ODBC C API. Then, voilĂ - we'll have
>> database connectivity for all databases out there!
>>
>> Please help me choose what to work on next.
>>
>>
>> Andrei
>
> I would think a good database lib would depend on a good container
> lib, So IMO, the order is self evident.
>
> 1000+ to containers.
>
I'd say what it depends on is good serialization. If you extend
containers to include disk based B+Trees then I'd agree with you,
otherwise not.
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