Right after allocators: containers or database connectivity?

Chris via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Wed Jun 10 02:04:09 PDT 2015


On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 17:56:57 UTC, luminousone wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 17:05:19 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
> wrote:
>> My work on allocators takes the last turn before the straight 
>> line. I've arranged with Dicebot to overlap the review period 
>> with finalizing details so I can act on feedback quickly.
>>
>> After that I'm ready for some major library work, and I had 
>> two things in mind.
>>
>> One would be a good pass of std.container, in particular (a) a 
>> design review with the DbI glasses on; (b) better 
>> documentation - sadly it seems to me so inadequate as to make 
>> containers themselves unusable; (c) investigate use of UFCS - 
>> std.container's design predates UFCS yet is a perfect fit for 
>> it, and most likely other cool language improvements we've 
>> added since.
>>
>> The other would be database connectivity. Erik Smith has shown 
>> some cool ideas at DConf, and I encourage him to continue 
>> working on them, but it seems to me this is an area where more 
>> angles mean more connectivity options.
>>
>> For database connectivity I'm thinking of using ODBC. What I 
>> see is that on all major platforms, vendors offer mature, good 
>> quality ODBC drivers, and most programs that have anything to 
>> do with databases offer ODBC connectivity. So connecting with 
>> ODBC means the individual database drivers are already there; 
>> no need to waste effort on creating drivers for each (or 
>> asking vendors to, which we can't afford).
>>
>> So I gave myself ten minutes the other night just before I 
>> went to sleep to see if I can get an ODBC rig on my OSX 
>> machine starting from absolutely nothing. I got 
>> http://www.odbcmanager.net but then got confused about where 
>> to find some dumb driver (text, csv) and gave up.
>>
>> Last night I gave myself another ten minutes, and lo and 
>> behold I got up and running. Got a demo CSV driver from 
>> http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php (which also 
>> supports Access and others). Then I headed to 
>> http://www.easysoft.com/developer/languages/c/odbc_tutorial.html 
>> and was able to run a simple ODBC application that lists the 
>> available drivers. Nice!
>>
>> It's trivial work to convert the C headers to D declarations. 
>> Then it's straight library design to offer convenient 
>> libraries on top of the comprehensive but pedestrian ODBC C 
>> API. Then, voilĂ  - we'll have database connectivity for all 
>> databases out there!
>>
>> Please help me choose what to work on next.
>>
>>
>> Andrei
>
> I would think a good database lib would depend on a good 
> container lib, So IMO, the order is self evident.
>
> 1000+ to containers.

Yep. Containers.

containers + right allocation strategy => interfacing to data 
base with the right containers


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