Make dub part of the standard dmd distribution

Atila Neves via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Wed Jun 10 06:06:31 PDT 2015


> That would be great! If the per-package mode has such practical 
> benefits, we could also simply make it the general default, for 
> all generators that can support it. However, I just briefly 
> looked at your benchmark results, the performance boost seems 
> to be solely because of parallel compiler invocations. We 
> already had issues with per-module parallel compilation and 
> out-of-memory errors, so this optimization seems to be only 
> suitable for certain projects or build machines. So at least 
> with the current compiler memory requirements I'm not sure if 
> this would be a good default build mode.

 From mine and Andrei's results it seems to be a much better 
default.

> This is of course perfectly fine and reasonable (although I 
> personally find the D syntax to be a bit too verbose for this 
> task, but thats really just personal taste - oh, and JSON is 
> awful, too ;). The problems just start to creep in as soon as 
> public DUB packages start to depend on Reggae - then we'll 
> possibly get another split in the ecosystem. I'd say we should 
> generally try to focus on a single standard solution, however 
> that looks and however the tool is split into executables or 
> packages.

I'm working on the syntax ;)

>> As I've mentioned before, I know the kind of things I'd want 
>> to do with
>> the build system if I had a large and complicated enough 
>> project, and I
>> know I wouldn't be able to do it easily using dub alone. As 
>> I've also
>> mentioned before, building with dub is just fine for most 
>> people.
>
> Getting some of those use cases on a Wiki page or something 
> would be great.

I'd have to go back to my old work project and read all the CMake 
code...

>> I don't know if fragmentation would be an issue. The packages 
>> are still
>> dub packages and I for one will use dub.json/sdl to list my 
>> dependencies
>> even if reggae is actually generating the build.
>
> Yeah that would definitely not be an issue. I just fear (maybe 
> unnecessarily) that people might start to put packages in the 
> registry that can *only* be built using Reggae (or some other 
> build tool). At least for libraries that would really be bad.

I think that if a project is a dub package, then it needs to be 
able to be built with dub. If anything on code.dlang.org doesn't 
(correctly) build with `dub build` then that would be incredibly 
wrong.

Also, I'm not as sure as you that reggae will catch on that much 
:)

Atila



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