Daily downloads in decline

[Dennis Ritchie via Digitalmars-d]

On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 at 17:20:12 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 at 17:04:56 UTC, Dennis Ritchie 
> wrote:
>> It seems to me that many still do not understand what the Rust 
>> :) Many have not seen Lisp, so they think that Rust is 
>> something innovative. At least from the syndrome of angle 
>> brackets and other syntactic shaluhi its developers are not 
>> disposed of, but only made matters worse. This language is not 
>> better than the same C++.
>
> Sorry, but this sounds like extremely uneducated opinion.

Yes, it is. I have not had time to spend some time playing with 
Rust, so my opinion about Rust is very bad.

> Rust has a very clearly defined set of values and goals. It is 
> designed for large scale projects that need to combine high 
> performance with maintainability and does that at cost of 
> learning curve and rapid prototyping. Very strict and punishing 
> compiler (with a pedantic and complicated type system) ensures 
> that it is much harder to make accidental subtle mistakes. Even 
> generics are completely type-checked (via traits).

OK. But Rust better than the same minimalist Go? Besides, there 
is no garbage collection Rust. This, at least, not to date. No 
bounds checking of arrays.

> (yes, I did spend quite some time playing with it)

I also plan to play with Rust, but a little later.

> There are few important features missing compared to D, i.e. 
> static reflection and metaprogramming can only be done via AST 
> macros. But primarily the main issue I see is that there is no 
> reason to pick Rust for a project with less than 50 KLOC unless 
> you want to learn. Productivity feels very low.

Well, if Rust created for huge projects, why these macros? I fear 
that macros are simply not needed in C-family languages.
The macros help in D? Write unbearable code? :D

> Still, saying that it is "same C++" is absolutely missing the 
> point.

Yes, I admit that it is very incorrect: so speaks of Rust, but in 
this case it is no better than Go from Google. The Rust better 
than Go in large projects?