You too can work on D for iOS

[Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 11:58:35 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
> On 6/12/15 3:36 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
>> wrote:
>>> On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
>>>>> Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install 
>>>>> your own
>>>>> iOS apps with Xcode now.  As usual, you still need a Mac to 
>>>>> run Xcode.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain 
>>>> available
>>>> outside OS X.  The Android toolchain is available for all 
>>>> three major
>>>> desktop platforms.  Still, good that at least you don't have 
>>>> to pay now.
>>>
>>> You can develop for iOS on other platforms (I think not using
>>> objective-c or swift), but you cannot submit an app to the 
>>> app store
>>> without Xcode.
>>>
>>> Really, I don't see why Apple needs to care about other 
>>> platforms --
>>> it's their toolchain, their runtime. This makes things very 
>>> easy for
>>> them support-wise, and people still line up to get iPhones, 
>>> so the
>>> incentive to support other platforms isn't really there.
>>>
>>> At dconf, I'd say at least 50% of the laptops were macs. They 
>>> are good
>>> systems to use.
>>>
>>> The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini 
>>> costs $500
>>> new, and you get Xcode free.
>>>
>>
>> The minimum wage in Portugal is around 400€ after taxes, with 
>> around
>> 1000€ for many university degrees.
>>
>> You can guess how many go out and buy a Mac.
>
>
> Those who are serious and willing to invest will buy one. I 
> bought my macbook in 2011 for about $1800, I've made more than 
> 50x that with it since doing iOS work.
>
> If you want to make minimum wage, I can guess you shouldn't buy 
> a mac :)
>
> -Steve

Which wouldn't happen in Portugal, where it is easier to see 
someone on the street with Android, WP, feature phone than iOS.

While most handsets are bought with pre-paid cards, iPhone 
requires a contract.

Before Apple was reborn, buying a Mac meant having to travel to 
Porto or Lisbon and get one there, with leasing. Same thing to 
get them repaired.

My university in Lisbon (UNL) was the first time I got to see LCs 
live, even then only used by administrative personal and one room 
for students with around 10 of them.

Everywhere else on the campus there were DG/UX, Aix terminals and 
PCs available.

Nowadays you can get them everywhere at a big surface, but for 
most families still means making use of 3 - 5 years leasing, 
given the average salaries and life cost.

--
Paulo