A few notes on choosing between Go and D for a quick project
deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Sun Mar 15 13:06:35 PDT 2015
On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 14:59:22 UTC, Sativa wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 14:15:18 UTC, disme wrote:
>> do you people really want to see this language be more
>> popular? do you? doesnt look like it at all to me, the only
>> few people in those 18+ pages that are actually telling you
>> the real problems are mostly being ignored for futile python,
>> go and rust talk, seriously?
>> let me go ahead and say that no i dont use D, ive found it
>> awhile ago and came back to look at it from time to time which
>> puts me in a perfect spot to tell you that the fundamental
>> problems for new comers are right here, in those posts:
>> page 7 - Leandro Motta Barros' post
>> page 10 - Almighty Bob's first post
>> page 11 - Almighty Bob's post (again)
>> page 14 - rumbu's first post
>> page 17 - Xavier Bigand's post
>> page XX - many of Chris' posts
>> (may have missed a few but those are the ones that jumped out
>> at me where i really went "THIS MAN GETS IT!")
>> yes, those are fundamental problems FOR A NEW COMER! 90% of
>> the posts i see in this thread are a bunch of... i dont even
>> know? advanced "problems" that new comers would have no clue
>> what they are about, only those few posts i mentioned are
>> seeing the real problems.
>> this community seems to be filled with really intelligent,
>> dedicated people capable of solving some of the hardest
>> challenges but you fail to see the tiny little bitty small
>> things that are stopping the new comers and instead you worry
>> about things that are far beyond their scope people...
>> i guess ill find out in a few months when i visit the language
>> again if those posts have been paid attention to, with that
>> said i wonder how many people will reply to this because they
>> havent read until the end (tiny little bitty detail slipping
>> by again?)
> Why do you believe that something has to be dumbed down for
> your sake instead of stepping up and learning learning
> something that will prove to be more powerful in the end?
> I don't think D or anything should kowtow to "KISS". Of course
> the lazy ignorant masses want this but humanity ultimate
> suffers... and there is enough simple programming languages for
> simple people. Do we really want another Python, Go, Java,
> perl, php, asp, JS, lua, Ruby, Rust... Oh, wait, instead of
> listing hundreds of languages, just look here:
> Most of those damn languages are essentially just syntactically
> different. Python vs Perl vs php? Who cares, it's all the same
> crap. If all the energy went in to creating a better languages
> with more power(power != complex) instead of just duplicating
> the stone wheel then maybe we can get somewhere?
> I really find it odd when someone complains about a "feature"
> but never uses it. e.g., "I don't like /++/", How often do you
> use it? "Never, I don't like it!"... then whats the problem, if
> you don't use it then how is it getting in the way of your
> progress? "Well, because other people use it and I get confused
> when I see it in their code!". So, instead of allowing them to
> program the way they want, you want to control them so you
> don't have to think as hard?
> Wouldn't you agree: "The best language is the one that gets out
> of the way and lets you do exactly what you need to do in the
> most efficient way(which isn't just about time).
Thank you for this excellent demonstration of what a good
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