Why aren't you using D at work?

Meta via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Thu May 28 09:40:03 PDT 2015


On Thursday, 28 May 2015 at 14:38:51 UTC, Manu wrote:
> I've been using D in all my personal projects for years now, 
> but I
> lament coding C at work every day, and I pine for salvation.
> I seem to have reasonable influence in my workplaces, and I 
> suspect I
> could have my workplace adopt D, but when considering the 
> notion with
> other staff, we always seem to encounter hard blockers to 
> migration
> that stop us in our tracks.
>
> I expect I'm not alone. Please share the absolute blockers 
> preventing
> you from adopting D in your offices. I wonder if there will be 
> common
> themes emerge?
>
>
> Every place I work has a slightly different set of blockers. I 
> have
> potential opportunity to involve D in my workplace in multiple 
> key
> areas, but blockers exist along every path, as follows:
>
> Web:
> * We need NaCl + Emscripten support in LDC. Doesn't need to be
> comprehensive, just successfully compile code. Emscripten alone 
> may
> satisfy; probably a much easier target.
>
> Core engine/applications:
> * Android+iOS. (plus also the web targets above in the future)
>
> Desktop utilities:
> * Workable Qt bindings.
>
> General friction/resistance from colleagues:
> * Forceinline. We have SO MUCH CODE that simply must inline. 
> It's
> non-negotiable, nobody is comfortable to write ranges or 
> properties
> without forceinline. I can't sell "just trust that the 
> optimiser might
> maybe hopefully do what you want" to low-level engineers, I've 
> been
> trying for years.
> * Debugging experience; it's come a long way, but there's still
> significant usability inhibitors.
>
>
> I often wonder if others share the importance of mobile 
> cross-compilers?
> They seem to be getting lots of love recently, which is very 
> exciting!
> I'd like to encourage those working on the Android/iOS 
> toolchains to
> publish regular binary builds of the toolchains so we with 
> little
> allocated working time can grab the latest toolchains and try 
> our
> stuff from time to time.
> Who maintains the CI solutions for the various compilers? How 
> hard is
> it to add CI for the common cross-compilers and publish them?
>
>
> The interesting observation I make from that list above, is that
> barring Qt bindings, everything I list is a problem for LDC. It 
> would
> seem to that LDC is the most important point of focus for my 
> company
> at this time.
> How many contributors does LDC have these days out of curiosity?
> GDC could give Android, but all the other points depend on LLVM.
>
>
> The trick is getting something (anything) to shift to D in the 
> office,
> giving other programmers some exposure, and give us a context to
> experiment with D in application to our particular workload; 
> that is,
> realtime processing and rendering of geospatial data, an ideal
> workload for D in my mind! http://udserver.euclideon.com/demo 
> (demo is
> NaCl + Emscripten, we'd love to have written it in D!)

Wait, you work for Euclideon?


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