Scott Meyers wants to bring default zero-initialization to C++, mentions TDPL for precedent

John Colvin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at
Sat Nov 21 03:40:39 PST 2015

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 at 10:29:57 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
> On Saturday, 21 November 2015 at 07:20:07 UTC, Joakim wrote:
>>> PHP scales. This is why people use it. And this is why people 
>>> will continue to use it. This is why Facebook, wikipedia, 
>>> Baidu, wordpress and many others are using it. There is 
>>> always a reason, and if you don't understand it, you are 
>>> doomed to miss the point.
>> Whut?  PHP scales?!  If you simply mean that it is easily 
>> coded by lowest-common denominator programmers, so it's easy 
>> to throw a bunch of those low-skilled coders on the job, then 
>> perhaps that's why you end up with monstrosities like this:
> Yes PHP sclaes. PHP scales like crazy? PHP scales better than 
> whatever modern framework you'll present me. There is just 
> nothing that came up with the same execution.
> You can say whatever you want about the languages (and there is 
> a lot to say !) but it gets its execution model right for 
> scaling, while everybody gets it wrong. And apparently, getting 
> your execution model right is more important than all the quirk 
> you pour into the language.
> Actually, that's not surprising, Rasmus Ledorf is a specialist 
> of the web, while he doesn't knows much about PL both 
> theoretically and practically (by his own admission). As a 
> result, you get a passable language, but you know what ? That's 
> not the important part.

Could you elaborate a bit on this? What about the execution model 
is so right?

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