Swift is coming, Swift is coming
Joakim via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Wed Nov 25 00:55:27 PST 2015
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 21:20:41 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:59:35 UTC, Joakim wrote:
>> Will be interesting to see how Swift does
> Considering it won't be available for Windows, I'd guess not
> very well and it will remain a niche language until it does.
I think it's niche languages that are developed first on Windows,
;) as there's a lot more money going towards new app development
for iOS these days. Popular mobile apps like Snapchat do not
even bother developing for Windows _or_ the web (I just had to
look that up, as I'd never use such an app, just what I'd heard
from others ;) ), so that you cannot even _use_ them on Windows.
> There's a reason D shot up in popularity after it started to
> support windows more thoroughly.
This is a common misconception, but D was initially developed and
released _on_ Windows 15 years ago, as Walter is a Windows guy.
It did not add linux support till a couple years later:
Yes, Win64 support came later than linux/x64: blame Microsoft's
closed toolchain and proprietary, undocumented formats for that.
Perhaps they're learning their lesson with their recent
open-sourcing of their CV/PDB debug format.
> Sure you can say that since it will be open source, people can
> create Windows versions. But without Apple merging changes
> upstream (which they have never said they would do) I really
> don't see those efforts lasting long before people realize the
> effort involved probably isn't worth it.
Yeah, I assumed they'd accept patches since they do for
llvm/clang, and Swift comes from that umbrella rather than their
other open-source projects that tend to just code dump
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