What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

[Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d]

On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 19:23:40 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On 10/06/2015 02:53 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 18:40:17 UTC, Nick Sabalausky 
>> wrote:
>>> Well that's good to hear. KDE4 went through the same path. 
>>> After
>>> spending time with KDE4, I found it to be it a terrible 
>>> blunder of an
>>> upgrade even after, several point releases in, people were 
>>> saying it
>>> had finally been fixed. It still has some warts that annoy me 
>>> (and
>>> some things I just gave in on), but it's finally won me back 
>>> from my
>>> hiatus with XFCE/LXDE. Looking forward to v5 stabilizing 
>>> further.
>>
>> IIRC, KDE 4 really became properly usable around 4.2
>
> ?!?
>
> It must've been REALLY bad before that! I think I first tried 
> it around v4.4-v4.6-ish and thus became an immediate fan of the 
> TrinityDE project ;) At that point, KDE4 just felt to me very 
> clumsy, unpolished, sluggish and borderline broken.

LOL. Fedora was actually crazy enough to release KDE 4.0.1. I 
didn't use that on my home computer, but the computers at school 
did. It's one thing for someone to do it purposefully; it's quite 
another to release it as the normal version to use with the 
distro. Now, I _did_ purposefully install it on whatever distro I 
was using at the time (OpenSuSE IIRC), and it was truly bad. So, 
I guess that I was a glutton for punishment, but I _definitely_ 
grabbed ever update as soon as I could.

I don't really blame them for releasing it like that, because 
they were between a rock and a hard place (until they released 
it, most of the apps wouldn't be updated, and until the apps were 
updated, it was going to be trash), but for a distro to actually 
do a release with it was just crazy.

I definitely don't remember there being much in the way of 
problems with 4.4 and later, but I'd also dealt with the insanity 
of the really early stuff. It probably did need to be released 
like it was, but only the crazy folks like me who installed it 
purposefully should have been using it.

> One of the projects still on my bucket list (and will likely 
> remain there indefinitely, the way things seem to go...) is a 
> desktop GUI mail/ng client. It pains me that I've wound up 
> settling for Thunderbird :(

LOL. That's also on my todo list, though the farthest I've gotten 
is a partially finished library implementing the RFC for the 
internet message format. I'll probably get back to it after I 
finish some more stuff for Phobos. But it's going to take a 
_very_ long time to finish all of the pieces, especially since 
I'd like to write pretty much all of it in D. :)

For now, I actually put up with kmail, but man do I hate akonadi. 
Worst thing to ever happen to KDE IMHO. How on earth could anyone 
think that it was a good idea to have a server for each of your 
e-mail accounts and treat the e-mail application like a client 
for each of those servers? I bet if someone forked KDE and put a 
real backend on it, a bunch of folks would jump on the fork. But 
if I'm going to go to that much work, I'd rather just write my 
own.

- Jonathan M Davis